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  • pacrat
    I need a LIFE!!
    • May 2014
    • 10256

    GOP BILL CODIFIES 2A RKBA OUTSIDE HOME






    Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., announced the legislation alongside fellow members of the Senate Judiciary Committee, saying they intended to codify the court rulings in two key gun rights cases into law. The cases, Washington, D.C. v. Heller and New York State Rifle and Pistol Association v. Bruen, found, respectively, that Americans have an individual right to bear arms irrespective of participation in a militia, and that they have the right to carry firearms outside their homes.

    "There's nothing in the Second Amendment about ?You can own a gun in your home and nowhere else,?" Graham said in a press conference announcing the legislation. "[Liberals] want to change that law, and if they get control of the Supreme Court these cases will change."

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    BAJ475
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2014
    • 5036

    They need to include that the right to bear arms outside the home includes the right of all citizens to carry and bear those arms in all states, not just those they reside in! Of course, when that passes and it is recognized that the right to bear arms outside the home is not limited to handguns but includes the most popular rifle in the US, there needs to be parades in SF, LA and Sac celebrating the new law where those participating in the parade are carrying their ARs and AKs with fully loaded 30 round mags. Maybe then the people in CA will understand that it is not armed law abiding citizens that are the problem but the Marxist who are trying to disarm them so that they can enslave the people.

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    • #3
      seabee1
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 1230

      Graham is a nut, and the bill won't go anywhere. The rinos are still trying to be nice to the left, bill won't get traction or votes. besides, you think potato is gonna sign it?

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      • #4
        pdsmith505
        Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 198

        Redundant law would be redundant.

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        • #5
          clb
          Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 345

          Yea
          But a boy can drean....no???
          The lunatics ARE running the asylum.
          Screw fotofukkit

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          • #6
            Sgt Raven
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2005
            • 3776






            Right at the beginning they write "the 2nd Amendment CONFERRED an individual right". Conferred = Grants. The Bill of Rights Enumerates our rights, it does not Grant us those Rights. This is a common mistake I see people making all the time. That we have Rights because the BoR gives us those Rights.


            Also they left off historical tradition, "at the time of adoption". Without that, then the 1934 NFA, is a historical tradition.
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            • #7
              curtisfong
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              • Jan 2009
              • 6893

              Originally posted by Sgt Raven
              https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo...ndment_act.pdf




              Right at the beginning they write "the 2nd Amendment CONFERRED an individual right". Conferred = Grants. The Bill of Rights Enumerates our rights, it does not Grant us those Rights. This is a common mistake I see people making all the time. That we have Rights because the BoR gives us those Rights.


              Also they left off historical tradition, "at the time of adoption". Without that, then the 1934 NFA, is a historical tradition.
              what a clusterf
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              • #8
                bwiese
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Oct 2005
                • 27616

                This bill is what happens when pols want to address a 'feelgood' segment of a population without doing legal research/analysis.

                It may offer marginal "Sense of the legislature" utility but could also be harmful.

                A gun group with good legislative-legal links should be working with the office/staff of the bill writer to 'get it right'.

                Why, it's almost like the Senator that wanted legal lenghts of rifles clarified (in NFA'34 timeframe) ... and ended up with
                these boundaries defining SBRs!
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                • #9
                  nick
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                  • Aug 2008
                  • 19143

                  For some strange reason Republicans only try to pass something like this when there's no chance of it passing. They're awfully quiet when they have the votes to pass it.
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                  • #10
                    70runner
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 625

                    Originally posted by nick
                    For some strange reason Republicans only try to pass something like this when there's no chance of it passing. They're awfully quiet when they have the votes to pass it.
                    This is what has always infuriated me. Suspect the strange reason is donors, donors, and donors.

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                    • #11
                      M1NM
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 7966

                      How about they just change the rules and say a District court ruling applies to ALL states?

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                      • #12
                        TruOil
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2017
                        • 1925

                        Originally posted by nick
                        For some strange reason Republicans only try to pass something like this when there's no chance of it passing. They're awfully quiet when they have the votes to pass it.
                        They have not had the votes to pass anything for years. A majority is not enough; there have to be 60 votes to end a filibuster, allowing the minority party a pocket veto. Yes, this bill is DOA; it will never make it out of committee where the Dems have majorities.

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                        • #13
                          mit31
                          Member
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 450

                          Thank you. It drives me nuts when people constantly make statements that gun laws could have passed during Trumps first 2 years. Filibuster, Filibuster, Filibuster.

                          Originally posted by TruOil
                          They have not had the votes to pass anything for years. A majority is not enough; there have to be 60 votes to end a filibuster, allowing the minority party a pocket veto. Yes, this bill is DOA; it will never make it out of committee where the Dems have majorities.
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