11th circut find ban on 18-20 yr olds OK

[BobB35]

Here is the case

https://media.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/files/202112314.pdf

This is how they will twist things and find bans constitutional. This will have to go to SCOTUS to clarify.

The case finds laws says minors can not buy guns. At the time a minor was considered anyone under 21. Therefore 18-20 yr olds can't buy guns.

But the age of adulthood has changed to 18 now so what is the analogue? This is dishonest at best and nefarious at the worst.

And it's all based in the Jim Crow laws during reconstruction.

[ritter]

It's telling when the third paragraph of the ruling contains two false pieces of "evidence":
"And in the more than 150 years since Reconstruction began,
guns have gotten only deadlier: automatic assault rifles can shoot
sixty rounds per minute with enough force to liquefy organs." They are not automatic, they are semi automatic. Liquify organs? I guess if a 9mm will blow the lungs clean out...

[Sgt Raven]

Mark Smith on a Justice in the 11th calling for a en banc hearing on this...

https://youtu.be/TLJsRwP4WcM

[Elgatodeacero]

Dupe.

[bohoki]

did no research into the 26th amendment it is odd how ages of majority are

i say if you are going to be tried as an adult you should have all the rights

[FullMetalJacket]

This opinion reads like it was written by Giffords: sensational and emotional.

Basing the judgment on RECONSTRUCTION era laws ensure this judgment gets overturned. That's almost 100 years after the Founding.

[BAJ475]

It appears that two of the laws predate reconstruction and that many more fall well beyond the reconstruction era. Of course, the purpose of the 14th amendment was to ensure that the rights protected by the bill of rights as they had existed from the founding were binding on the states. The whole opinion smacks of prohibited interest balancing.

[Jimi Jah]

Yet they are old enough to fight in the military and shoot deadly assalt weapons?

[Epaphroditus]

No guns no votes.

[dogrunner]

The llth obviously needs to re read Bruen.........in particular the part discussing History and Tradition!

[abinsinia]

The 11th circuit says Alabama in 1877 made it a crime to sell a gun to a "minor" and they claim "minor" is under 21.

In Duncan historic spread sheets California claimed "minor" was under 18.

The 11th circuit claimed 3 court cases where "minor" was referred to as under 21. So that's that I guess, it's under 21 right ?

[Elgatodeacero]

The 11 Circuit made the obvious error of finding an outlier and using it to uphold the statute. That is why there was an immediate call by one of the judges for a vote for en banc review.

[AdamVIP]

"Even though 18-to-20-year-olds now account for less
than 4% of the population, they are responsible for more than 15%
of homicide and manslaughter arrests."

Something tells me that if rights banning is now made based on statistics like this there might be a whole different uproar.

[BAJ475]

"Even though 18-to-20-year-olds now account for less
than 4% of the population, they are responsible for more than 15%
of homicide and manslaughter arrests."

Something tells me that if rights banning is now made based on statistics like this there might be a whole different uproar.

I thought that manslaughter was a form of homicide! And what percentage of the unlawful homicides involve gang members?

[Dan_Eastvale]

Is drinking alcohol a right?
21 legal age

I think legal age for a right needs to be 18

Of course a parent can simply give a child a gun in most states as well