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  • TrappedinCalifornia
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2018
    • 8097

    2nd Amendment Sanctuary Measure Overturned In Oregon

    I believe this is the next chapter to this 2021 thread... Judge Rejects Challenge To Second Amendment Sanctuary Effort In Oregon.

    2nd Amendment sanctuary measure overturned in Oregon

    Local governments in Oregon can’t declare themselves Second Amendment sanctuaries and ban police from enforcing certain gun laws, a state appeals court decided Wednesday, in the first court case filed over a concept that hundreds of U.S. counties have adopted in recent years...

    The state Court of Appeals ruled that it violates a law giving the state the power to regulate firearms. The ordinance would effectively, it found, “create a ‘patchwork quilt’ of firearms laws in Oregon, where firearms regulations that applied in some counties would not apply in Columbia County,” something lawmakers specifically wanted to avoid...

    The Oregon case was filed in 2021 under a provision in state law that allows a judge to examine a measure before it goes into effect. A trial court judge originally declined to rule, a decision that was appealed to the higher court...
    ‘Second Amendment Sanctuary’ ruling in Oregon deals blow to controversial gun rights ordinance

    ...Gun safety advocates say it is the first such ruling passed at the appellate level. And while the decision has sway only within state lines, the ruling could have major ramifications for the more than 1,900 counties nationwide that have declared themselves gun sanctuaries.

    “Today’s opinion by the Court of Appeals makes it clear that common sense requirements like safe storage and background checks apply throughout Oregon,” said Oregon Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum, who joined the case in opposition to Columbia County’s ordinance. “Hopefully, other counties with similar measures on the books will see the writing on the wall.”...

    Three appellate judges made the ruling in the Columbia County case, including Presiding Judge Douglas Tookey, who cited a state law vesting the authority to regulate the sale and use of guns in Oregon solely with the Legislature...

    But Judge Ted Grove found no need for a judicial review in 2021, saying the new ordinance hadn’t been challenged and that the commission was trying to invalidate its own ordinance.

    The case was closely watched on appeal, with both the gun control group Everytown for Gun Safety and Rosenblum joining the case and seeking to overturn the ordinance.

    The gun rights organization Gun Owners of America also intervened and argued state law prohibited Grove from issuing an advisory opinion, while the county commission hoped the appeals court would send the case back to Grove to decide but took no position on whether the ordinance itself was lawful...

    In a passionate concurrence, Appeals Judge James Egan noted attorneys for the gun rights group that joined the suit had suggested the Columbia County ordinance was necessary to prevent the United Nations from promulgating international gun laws.

    Egan dismissed the claim as an “entirely fictitious problem” and said it was a white supremacist dog whistle intended to invoke conspiracy theories of global cabals.

    “Individual members of the court must call out illegitimate quasi-legal arguments and theories for what they are … antisemitic and racist tropes,” he wrote.
    Here is the decision... Columbia County v Rosenblum, et al.
    Last edited by TrappedinCalifornia; 02-16-2023, 7:41 AM.
  • #2
    Luciansulla
    Member
    • Nov 2019
    • 205

    Bad reasoning, but proper outcome. Preemption laws are typically in favor of gun rights, but the same standard applies in this case.

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    • #3
      Luciansulla
      Member
      • Nov 2019
      • 205

      Bad reasoning, but proper outcome. Preemption laws are typically in favor of gun rights, but the same standard applies in this case.

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      • #4
        TrappedinCalifornia
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2018
        • 8097

        Originally posted by Luciansulla
        Bad reasoning, but proper outcome. Preemption laws are typically in favor of gun rights, but the same standard applies in this case.
        As I've posted, a number of times, 'sanctuary' laws are more political statements than anything else.

        Originally posted by TrappedinCalifornia
        I wouldn't put too much faith in "sanctuary jurisdictions." Why? Ballotpedia sums it up...

        In general, the term sanctuary jurisdiction refers to a city, county, or state that has enacted policies that limit local officials' involvement in the enforcement of federal immigration law. While a jurisdiction may self-identify or be described by others as a sanctuary jurisdiction, the specific policies that prompt the designation are disputed and there is no official definition of the term in federal law...
        At its best, it would only delay actions. If the Feds really wanted it... good luck making it stick.

        It's just like there already being Second Amendment Sanctuary status in many areas according to Wikipedia; including two in California (Needles and Siskiyou County).

        Sanctuary status is a statement, not a guarantee.
        However, it is often important that the statement be made.

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        • #5
          DolphinFan
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 2552

          Not sure states have this authority under the 10th Amendment over the Second Amendment.
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          • #6
            TrappedinCalifornia
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2018
            • 8097

            For those who are interested and/or dubious, according to the State of Oregon... Sanctuary Promise...

            ...As a sanctuary state since 1987, Oregon stands for the safety, dignity and human rights of all Oregonians. Oregon was the first state in the nation to pass a statewide law stopping state and local police and government from helping federal authorities with immigration enforcement (). In the ensuing decades, the law was updated several times...
            They even track... Sanctuary Promise Violation

            Oh... Excuse me. That's about civil rights for illegal immigrants.

            The 2nd Amendment is part of the Bill of Rights and...

            ...People often confuse civil rights and civil liberties. Civil rights refer to legal provisions that stem from notions of equality. Civil rights are not in the Bill of Rights; they deal with legal protections. For example, the right to vote is a civil right. A civil liberty, on the other hand, refers to personal freedoms protected from government intrusion such as those listed in the Bill of Rights. For example, the First Amendment's right to free speech is a civil liberty...

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            • #7
              CurlyDave
              Member
              • Feb 2014
              • 252

              As much as I do not like any loss, it looks like we will not need 2A sanctuaries after NYSRPA v. Bruen.

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              • #8
                BigMac90660
                Member
                • Jan 2017
                • 447

                If the Bill of Rights doesn't protect Civil Rights, but only Civil Liberties, then why didn't the Founding Fathers call it the Bill of Liberties?

                These people amaze me.

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                • #9
                  clb
                  Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 345

                  to long WONT READ
                  See my avatar
                  The lunatics ARE running the asylum.
                  Screw fotofukkit

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                  • #10
                    WWDHD?
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 2630

                    So in a nutshell (about the only way my non-legal expert brain can understand most things)- does this mean no more "_______ Sanctuary City/State" deals for any reason such as for illegals, pot/drugs, pit bull dogs, etc..... or is this just a no go for 2A rights and the other "Sanctuaries" can still stand?
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                    Nolite te bastardes carborundorum!

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                    • #11
                      Drivedabizness
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 2610

                      Just for 2A - it's well established as a second-class right
                      Proud CGN Contributor
                      USMC Pistol Team Alumni - Distinguished Pistol Shot
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                      • #12
                        pacrat
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • May 2014
                        • 10256

                        After Trump gave us a Constitution Believing SCOTUS. Which re-set 2A scrutiny to "THT".

                        This Oregon 2A sanctuary will become moot. Because OUR ENTIRE NATION will once again become the 2A SANCTUARY IT ONCE WAS.

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                        • #13
                          TrappedinCalifornia
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2018
                          • 8097

                          You might be interested to note which counties in Oregon this could impact.



                          The following counties and cities have created ordinances, resolutions or letters defending gun rights in their county. Some of the links take you to copies before the commissioners signed them, but they have all been enacted...
                          Interestingly, here in California, it appears that Shasta County is looking at some of the same type of turmoil. From earlier today... Group demands Shasta supervisors remove 2nd Amendment resolution from agenda

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                          • #14
                            OleCuss
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 7737

                            I think it is bad reasoning and bad outcome.

                            A state law requiring you to violate the Constitutional rights of the citizenry should not be enforceable anywhere. Pre-emption should not be accepted logic in such a situation.

                            But then, I didn't read the case and maybe my argument was not made or flawed somehow.
                            CGN's token life-long teetotaling vegetarian. Don't consider anything I post as advice or as anything more than opinion (if even that).

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                            • #15
                              Creeping Incrementalism
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 1721

                              So... Oregon has stopped being a sanctuary state for illegal immigrants?

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