Last of Four Washington State Gun Bills Passed Friday Night in House; Updated 3/5

[TrappedinCalifornia]

3/5 Update: On Friday, 3/4, the State House passed the bill, 55-42-1. All 4 bills passed this week.

2/18 Update: Evidently, this is one of four bills; 3 of which having already passed either the State House or Senate. See Post #10 below.

Gun rights activists gather in Olympia to oppose gun bill passed Wednesday night in Senate

...On Wednesday night, the Senate passed a bill

In the "bill" linked to in the above quote, it doesn't seem to be quite as onerous as California's.

...A large capacity magazine is defined as an ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 17 rounds of ammunition, or any conversion kit, part, or combination of parts, from which such a device can be assembled if in the possession of the same person. A large capacity magazine does not include:

• an ammunition feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 17 rounds of ammunition,
• a 22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device, or
• a tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm...

That is followed by a list of exceptions/exemptions. Buried in the 'summary' actually linked to is: "The committee recommended a different version of the bill than what was heard."

According to this page, where the link is found on the Bill's website in the State Senate, you discover the last minute amendment which was adopted which alters the definition to...

..."Large capacity magazine" means an ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds of ammunition, or any conversion kit, part, or combination of parts, from which such a device can be assembled if those parts are in possession of or under the control of the same person, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(a) An ammunition feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds of ammunition;
(b) A 22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device; or
(c) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm...

Followed by new definitions of "Distribute" and "Import," among other changes. In other words, the "different version" is notably different. You will find more documented context, including links to videos of the hearings, on the Bill's Senate page.

Evidently, it now awaits passage in the State House.

[cz74]

Feel sorry for those california expats moved to WA state. Will be a California clone state in couple years more.

[prdubi]

Feel sorry for those california expats moved to WA state. Will be a California clone state in couple years more.

Why feel sorry..most of the legiscritters came from California.


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[Quiet]

Feel sorry for those california expats moved to WA state. Will be a California clone state in couple years more.

I know some CA expats that moved to WA and when they lived in CA they never really bothered about being active in the fight against CA gun control laws.

Then when they became WA residents, they would laugh at all the new CA gun control laws that were passed after they moved out of CA. I would then point out all the attempts at passing more gun control laws in WA and they would respond that those attempts will not pass because "what happened in CA will never happen here".

Complacency by gun owners is one of the main reasons why anti-gun laws get passed.

[ja308]

Maybe we NON NRA members can start another thread about how the NRA doesn't do anything !
I mean its not like the NRA needs members to be effective.

Note to free states, discourage anyone who is NOT an NRA member, from moving into your state.

[TrappedinCalifornia]

Washington: Quick Turnaround as 10 Round Magazine Ban Legislation Scheduled for Committee Hearing this Week

On Wednesday, February 16, the House Civil Rights and Judiciary Committee is scheduled to consider an amended version of extreme magazine ban legislation, Senate Bill 5078. The measure only passed out of the Senate late last week and has already been referred and scheduled for a committee hearing...

That was from the NRA-ILA. This is from The News Tribune (Tacoma) this morning...

Kinda makes you wonder where this is headed...

[Dr.Lou]

"On Wednesday night, the Senate passed a bill that would make the selling, distributing, purchasing or manufacturing of magazines with more than 10 rounds of ammunition a gross misdemeanor."

So possession of currently owned magazines is ok - grandfathered?

[Bhobbs]

Maybe we NON NRA members can start another thread about how the NRA doesn't do anything !
I mean its not like the NRA needs members to be effective.

Note to free states, discourage anyone who is NOT an NRA member, from moving into your state.

Exactly.

Look at how effective the NRA was at stopping this bill.

[TrappedinCalifornia]

Washington State Sheriffs Take aim at High-Capacity Magazine ban

[TrappedinCalifornia]

BTW: Evidently, the bill headlining this thread is actually one of... Four Key Gun Control Bills Still Moving Through Washington State Legislature

...House Bill 1630 also prohibits openly carried firearms at local government meetings and county election offices. Concealed pistol licenses would still be allowed...

Senate Bill 5078, which was requested by Washington Attorney General Bob Ferguson and sponsored by Democratic Senator Marko Liias, would prohibit the sale of magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds...

House Bill 1705House Bill 1901

[BAJ475]

I know some CA expats that moved to WA and when they lived in CA they never really bothered about being active in the fight against CA gun control laws.

Then when they became WA residents, they would laugh at all the new CA gun control laws that were passed after they moved out of CA. I would then point out all the attempts at passing more gun control laws in WA and they would respond that those attempts will not pass because "what happened in CA will never happen here".

Complacency by gun owners is one of the main reasons why anti-gun laws get passed.

You are correct. But I did not make that mistake. I moved to Idaho, where the state's constitution prevents most of this BS.

[BAJ475]

Washington State Sheriffs Take aim at High-Capacity Magazine ban

I would add that Northwest Firearms forum members, some of whom are also Calguners, actively opposed this nonsense proposal. The Washington legislature has a website where one could register their agreement or disagreement. Those opposing out numbered those in favor by approximately 8 to 1. Hopefully, with the support of the WA sheriffs this proposal will be stopped for another year.

[BAJ475]

BTW: Evidently, the bill headlining this thread is actually one of... Four Key Gun Control Bills Still Moving Through Washington State Legislature

Yes, there are four BS bills. CPLs in WA only require an application, a fee and fingerprints and the fee is low. The serial number bill is so poorly written, because the drafters know little or nothing about firearms and the firearm industry, that it should be effectively uninforceable. I have not followed 1901.

[ja308]

Exactly.

Look at how effective the NRA was at stopping this bill.

Um I have this crazy idea that having lots of NRA members translates into political power .

Maybe not anymore since most elections appear to be fixed one way or the other.

[Bhobbs]

Um I have this crazy idea that having lots of NRA members translates into political power .

Maybe not anymore since most elections appear to be fixed one way or the other.

Does the NRA not promote itself as the 800 lb gorilla in the room? Do they need to be 1000 lbs before they actually achieve anything?