And you thought CA was bad

[sakosf]

https://www.ammoland.com/2021/12/nj-mandatory-reeducation-forced-labor-anti-gun-groups/#axzz7EOTcdbqN

[Jeepergeo]

I suspect that many of the folks that frequent this forum pretty much know how bad California is...well, the Dem/Lib/Union forum users are probably exceptions to having that knowledge.

[sakosf]

I suspect that many of the folks that frequent this forum pretty much know how bad California is...well, the Dem/Lib/Union forum users are probably exceptions to having that knowledge.

No doubt about CA being bad......

[MJB]

Down here in San Diego it's already a city council law and a county law f*** them

[CAL.BAR]

Yeah, NOTHING new here. CA has had safe storage laws for years now. Keep it in a quick access safe.

[TruOil]

If the law really says what the article says it says, then it is unconstitutional under the express holding of Heller. I suspect that it is--or was intended to be--more like the SF ordinance upheld by the Ninth, an ordinance that specifically attempted to get right up to the line drawn by Heller without crossing it. At least the SF (and LA) ordinance allows people top carry loaded firearms on their person....

[press1280]

If the law really says what the article says it says, then it is unconstitutional under the express holding of Heller. I suspect that it is--or was intended to be--more like the SF ordinance upheld by the Ninth, an ordinance that specifically attempted to get right up to the line drawn by Heller without crossing it. At least the SF (and LA) ordinance allows people top carry loaded firearms on their person....

This would have the effect of forcing people to go out and apply for CCWs (when NJ is forced to issue) just to avoid this nonsense

[ja308]

Ok you passed another law!
get to enforcing it .

[OCEquestrian]

I suspect that many of the folks that frequent this forum pretty much know how bad California is...well, the Dem/Lib/Union forum users are probably exceptions to having that knowledge.

They should be tarred and feathered and run out of every gun store and shooting range on a rail!

[OCEquestrian]

Yeah, NOTHING new here. CA has had safe storage laws for years now. Keep it in a quick access safe.

Says one of the forum democrats...WHO SUPPORTED and probably VOTED FOR BIDEN, Newsom and the rest...

[M1NM]

with an entity with knowledge and experience in the prevention of gun violence approved by the Attorney General

Somehow I don't think the NRA would be on the approved list. I wonder if they'll be sending you with unarmed community cops to quell domestic fights.

[TruOil]

Says one of the forum democrats...WHO SUPPORTED and probably VOTED FOR BIDEN, Newsome and the rest...

AFAIK, the State law (as opposed to local ordinances) do not require safe storage if there are no minors in the home. Specifically, the penalties under the statute only attach if a minor gets unauthorized access to a firearm, and increase depending on the seriousness of the injuries the minor inflicts. The SF and LA ordinances require safe storage for everyone, including people who live alone, unless the firearm is on one's person or "is in use."

[Citizen_B]

I don't understand this bill. The unloaded, in locked box, etc. was the exact issue Heller confronted. I don't see how this stands up to any kind of judicial review even by the most liberal courts.

[TruOil]

I don't understand this bill. The unloaded, in locked box, etc. was the exact issue Heller confronted. I don't see how this stands up to any kind of judicial review even by the most liberal courts.

The D.C. law, as I recall all these years later, required the firearm to be disassembled. IF my recollection is correct, that minor distinction will be used to distinguish Heller to say that it does not apply. Further, as was the case with the San Fran ordinance, the law allows the individual to keep a fully loaded firearm on one's person and "while in use," an aspect that isn't mentioned in the Heller case. The idea is if you can have a loaded firearm ready for the purpose of self defense while you are awake, Heller does not apply. I have little doubt that the 2d Circuit would accept that "logic" to uphold the law.

[Citizen_B]

The D.C. law, as I recall all these years later, required the firearm to be disassembled. IF my recollection is correct, that minor distinction will be used to distinguish Heller to say that it does not apply. Further, as was the case with the San Fran ordinance, the law allows the individual to keep a fully loaded firearm on one's person and "while in use," an aspect that isn't mentioned in the Heller case. The idea is if you can have a loaded firearm ready for the purpose of self defense while you are awake, Heller does not apply. I have little doubt that the 2d Circuit would accept that "logic" to uphold the law.