CDC gun grabbing attempts underway

[Puss]

The article has art of 3 white people followed by anecdotes of 3 white people, how very racist. The FBI universal crime report clearly shows blacks bear the brunt of gun violence. Yet they are nowhere to be found in that article. I know why but it does a terrible disservice to whatever they are trying to accomplish, ostensibly to limit gun violence. Living in Oakland, I can say for sure the victims that get shot and survive are by and large, members of the black community. Again they will get lip service only, stores will close in their neighborhoods, and they will be right where they've always been, with all the attention on white people. Sad. What will it take for stop and frisk to become necessary again?

[TrappedinCalifornia]

CDC Study on Gun Violence DESTROYS Obama's New Gun Control Push

When at first you don't succeed...

[ja308]

CDC Study on Gun Violence DESTROYS Obama's New Gun Control Push

When at first you don't succeed...

Bet they buried this !

[TrappedinCalifornia]

Well... At least they're acknowledging that suicides is the driver of "gun violence."

America has a gun violence problem. What do we do about it?

...It is seen as the scourge of urban living in some cases but also penetrates deeply into suburban and rural America. And many times, the victims are the gun owners themselves or their loved ones, either through suicide or accidental shootings. There are also the 2,606 gun deaths by law enforcement between 2015 and 2019, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

While homicides account for much of the carnage and terror associated with gun violence, the most recent data from health officials shows that suicides account for the bulk -- over 60% -- of gun deaths in America. And gun injuries, while they rarely make the news, put a tremendous burden on both American families and the health care system, according to health researchers...

Active shooter situations represent just one kind of mass shooting. But even that wider category resulted in a mere 1% of all of the 191,897 gun deaths between 2015 and 2019, according to the Gun Violence Archive, a nonprofit which identifies mass shootings as cases in which four or more people are shot, and tracks them through public data, news reports and other sources. Mass shootings accounted for 2.8% of all of the 74,565 gun homicides during that five-year period, the GVA data showed.

"It's a rare anomaly," Kris Brown, president of the nonprofit advocacy group Brady: United Against Gun Violence, told ABC News of mass shootings.

"What you don't hear about and what people don't assess is for every story of a mass shooting, there are, on average, 300 [other] stories, most of them suicide, that are never told," Brown said...

Brown told ABC News that every year on average 33,242 people are unintentionally shot. Over 98% of these unintentional shooting incidents resulted in injuries and not deaths, according to the CDC data.

These include incidents where a gun goes off when someone thought it was unloaded, or a child was playing with a gun, according to Brown.

"A big proportion of [those incidents] is people with guns in their homes," she said...

Half of all suicide deaths in the U.S. are from guns, the data showed. And while only 10% of attempted suicides involve guns, the high percentage of fatalities from gun suicides reflects the fact that roughly 87% of all gun suicide attempts are successful, according to a Brady: United Against Gun Violence analysis of CDC data from those years.

Another 17,770 people were injured by a gun suicide attempt during that period, according to the CDC.

While Black men are disproportionately impacted by gun homicides, over 100,000 white Americans died by suicide with a gun between 2015 and 2019, according to the CDC -- representing 85% of all gun suicides during the five-year period.

In fact, the rate of gun suicides among white Americans was more than 2 1/2 times greater than Black Americans, CDC data showed. The majority of gun suicide victims are white men between the ages of 45 and 65...

Access to a gun is more likely to lead a person to use it on more than just one person, Webster said...

Experts who have been studying gun violence say people are more likely to find common ground when the focus is taken off mass shootings and it is instead approached as a multi-faceted problem...

He and other advocates acknowledged that a safe storage law doesn't solve all of the issues surrounding gun violence, such as domestic incidents and gang-related violence, but say that it sheds light on how to build consensus and come up with solutions...

What I draw from the piece overall is that they are about to change the narrative using CDC data as their touchstone. The overarching point remains the same; i.e., that guns are 'bad' and 'access' only ends up in bad results such as suicide. But, what they seem intent on is moving the narrative away from the headlines and attempting to make it more personal by going after the idea that just owning a gun, having it in your household at all, puts you at and others at risk. In other words, the "safe storage laws" are just the beginning in terms of limiting access.

Didn't we go through this with a Supreme Court case once? If I recall, wasn't the case about limiting access in the home and brought by... oh... what was the guy's name? Ummm... Dick Heller?

[gwanghoops]

gun studies aren't the problem, politicians who use and abuse them are.

The Dickey Amendment in 1996 stated "none of the funds made available for injury prevention and control at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) may be used to advocate or promote gun control." and modified in 2018 due to Azar's interpretation allowed for gun research but can't use government funds to promote gun control.

[Dan_Eastvale]

Don't need gun studies. Waste of taxpayers'money.
Their SOLE purpose is anti 2A.
Guns in violence, suicides? So what?
Don't see studies in violence by pencils, wrenches, fire, pushing/jumping off buildings, drowning, etc, etc.
Violence is a public health issue.
Guns are NOT!
All phooey.

[gwanghoops]

here's the CDC funded research projects...you decide

Research Grants to Prevent Firearm-Related Violence and Injuries $7.8M where's the rest?

https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/firearms/funded-research.html

[NavCop]

While the California constitution may guarantee privacy, they will make it one of those things that you can refuse, but that you are required to "opt out" of. Then, they will hide this in boilerplate and fine print. The result? No one will know and their failure to "opt out" will be taken as tacit approval in court, if challenged.

[TrappedinCalifornia]

...All phooey.

It may all be phooey to us, but it's happening and we need to find a way to counter the inevitable narrative. As I said in Post #19...

...what they seem intent on is moving the narrative away from the headlines and attempting to make it more personal by going after the idea that just owning a gun, having it in your household at all, puts you at and others at risk. In other words, the "safe storage laws" are just the beginning in terms of limiting access...

Here's the next installment in that series of articles... The type of gun used in most US homicides is not an AR-15.

...While semi-automatic rifles such as the AR-15 are a major flashpoint in the gun control debate and are often the focus of attention following mass shootings, there are only about 20 million assault rifles in the United States, a fraction of the estimated 400 million guns in the country. Instead, according to ABC News contributor and former FBI agent Brad Garrett, handguns account for the most gun murders in the U.S. ...

And despite public perception, more mass shootings (where four or more victims are killed) are carried out with handguns as opposed to long guns, according to Garrett...

Of the 10,258 gun murders in the U.S. in 2019, handguns were used in 6,368 of them, according to FBI data. But these numbers may not be exact due to a lack of gun violence research, said Daniel Flannery, a professor at Case Western Reserve University and the director of the Begun Center for Violence Prevention Research and Education.

The "sheer availability" of handguns is behind their popularity, Flannery said.

In 2019, 3.6 million handguns were manufactured in the U.S., Flannery said. Only about 150,000 were exported that year, while another 2.5 million handguns were imported, he said, citing data from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF)...

"It's way easier to get a handgun than it is to do just about anything else in this country," Flannery said. "Our background check is woefully inadequate."...

"If people are carrying them, whether that's because their state has an open carry law, or because they feel they need one for protection, or because they're intending to use it to settle a dispute, more people have them, and more people are using them," Flannery said...

Dodson said he doesn't believe all handguns should be banned. "But I don't think they should be in the hands of the wrong person," he added, saying he supports legal restrictions and gun safety education...

So... Handguns are popular simply because they're available and if they are allowed to carry them, more people are going to use them. Remember one of the lines I quoted in Post #19...

...Access to a gun is more likely to lead a person to use it on more than just one person, Webster said...

Is it possible they are building up to a national version of the roster? Maybe new restrictions on eligibility for ownership and/or carry via 'stricter' background checks?

Is it possible that they've 'given up' on assault weapons bans for now? Thus, they acknowledge that the AR-15 is used 'less' in mass shootings to build up the boogeyman of handguns needing to be more strictly regulated; despite SCOTUS?

Again, it may be all smoke blowing to us, but we are a minority in this country and if the majority is 'persuaded,' with a SCOTUS that seems hesitant to get involved in 'public policy,' even if it is to protect the rights of the minority, and they are able to gather the research data to 'prove it,' how do we counter the narrative effectively?