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  • TrappedinCalifornia
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2018
    • 8313

    The Plot to Takeover - Gun Control is a Necessary Step

    In 1958, a former FBI agent produced The Naked Communist. In it, he presented the strategy he saw being used to 'takeover' many countries. On 10 January 1963, the 45 Goals of that strategy were read into the Congressional Record.

    I know Glenn Beck and others have talked about this during Obama's tenure. But, I don't have access to Beck's program and I'm not saying this is all a "communist plot." What I am pointing out is, if you go down current headlines, the mindset of those 45 Goals is blindingly obvious. Further, gun control or, more specifically, elimination of the means of the citizenry to defend itself, is a necessary step in putting those precursors to control in place.

    Here are just a few examples...

    1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

    2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
    What have we heard in relation to North Korea and Iran over the last, say, 5 years? What are we currently hearing about John Bolton and Trump's foreign policy? How much did Obama give the Iranians again?

    4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
    What have we been hearing about tariffs and China? How about a renegotiation of NAFTA? What has been the response of both Democrats and many Republicans in regard to free trade being 'necessary?' What's happening with Obama's reopening of Cuba?

    6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
    Trump Signs Spending Bill, Reversing Veto Threat and Avoiding Government Shutdown -

    ...lack of funding for his promised border wall, but that was only one disappointment for the president in a measure that blocked the hiring of thousands of new border patrol agents; stopped deep cuts to foreign aid...
    13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
    Exposing the absurdity of loyalty oaths -

    ...But over time, and after several level-headed Supreme Court decisions, the 1st Amendment violation inherent in requiring signatories to give up their freedom of speech and association became clear, and the most offensive parts of the California loyalty oath were tossed out. Though the full oath remains in the state Constitution, it is only partially enforceable... While not patently unconstitutional or even terribly objectionable, the current loyalty oath in California is absolutely unnecessary — especially when you consider that public employees who are not U.S. citizens are exempt from signing. Obviously, the oath is not crucial to getting the state's work completed...
    15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
    How Progressives Win the Culture War -

    ...Progressives could be on the verge of delegitimizing their foes, on guns but also much else, rendering them untouchable for anybody who wants to stay in polite society. That would produce social changes far vaster than limiting assault rifles... What’s happening today is that certain ideas about gun rights, and maybe gun ownership itself, are being cast in the realm of the morally illegitimate and socially unacceptable... Progressives have won on most social issues. They could win on nearly everything else... Continued school shootings could be just the thing that persuades the mainstream that conservatism is vulgar and socially illegitimate, somewhere between smoking and segregationism... The big prize here is not gun laws. It’s winning the culture war, with the gunfight as the final battle...
    16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

    17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

    18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

    19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

    20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

    21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures...

    26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity, as "normal, natural, healthy."
    Do you really need examples from recent news outlets?

    29. Discredit the America Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
    'The 2nd Amendment Is Outdated': Phillips Talks to Students Marching for Gun Control

    Listen to the kids in the video; realizing that they can't even tell you what an "assault weapon" is (one thinks it has to do with cars) and those who claim the 2nd Amendment is "outdated" and doesn't apply in modern society.

    The list goes on and the examples are replete.

    It seems that somebody is following "the playbook" in an almost verbatim manner and simply pointing to who is behind the Parkland Kids is only, to my mind, a piece of the puzzle.

    Any thoughts?
    Last edited by TrappedinCalifornia; 03-27-2018, 12:03 AM.
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    rootuser
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 3018

    Originally posted by TrappedinCalifornia
    In 1958, a former FBI agent produced The Naked Communist. In it, he presented the strategy he saw being used to 'takeover' many countries. On 10 January 1963, the 45 Goals of that strategy were read into the Congressional Record.

    I know Glenn Beck and others have talked about this during Obama's tenure. But, I don't have access to Beck's program and I'm not saying this is all a "communist plot." What I am pointing out is, if you go down current headlines, the mindset of those 45 Goals is blindingly obvious. Further, gun control or, more specifically, elimination of the means of the citizenry to defend itself, is a necessary step in putting those precursors to control in place.

    Here are just a few examples...



    What have we heard in relation to North Korea and Iran over the last, say, 5 years? What are we currently hearing about John Bolton and Trump's foreign policy? How much did Obama give the Iranians again?



    What have we been hearing about tariffs and China? How about a renegotiation of NAFTA? What has been the response of both Democrats and many Republicans in regard to free trade being 'necessary?' What's happening with Obama's reopening of Cuba?



    Trump Signs Spending Bill, Reversing Veto Threat and Avoiding Government Shutdown -





    Exposing the absurdity of loyalty oaths -





    How Progressives Win the Culture War -





    Do you really need examples from recent news outlets?



    'The 2nd Amendment Is Outdated': Phillips Talks to Students Marching for Gun Control

    Listen to the kids in the video; realizing that they can't even tell you what an "assault weapon" is (one thinks it has to do with cars) and those who claim the 2nd Amendment is "outdated" and doesn't apply in modern society.

    The list goes on and the examples are replete.

    It seems that somebody is following "the playbook" in an almost verbatim manner and simply pointing to who is behind the Parkland Kids is only, to my mind, a piece of the puzzle.

    Any thoughts?
    Kinda like saying Nostradamus was right. Well, so was Mark Twain.

    I can appreciate the parallels you have drawn, but there are people who can read your palm, give you psychic reading over the phone, and talk to the dead.

    Over a long enough, given amount of time, you can shoehorn in any set of circumstances to fit your current reality. Religions of the world have been doing this for eons.

    We have tasks on hand we need to deal with right here and right now. We should face the enemy we have right here.

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    • #3
      TrappedinCalifornia
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2018
      • 8313

      Originally posted by rootuser
      Kinda like saying Nostradamus was right. Well, so was Mark Twain.

      I can appreciate the parallels you have drawn, but there are people who can read your palm, give you psychic reading over the phone, and talk to the dead.

      Over a long enough, given amount of time, you can shoehorn in any set of circumstances to fit your current reality. Religions of the world have been doing this for eons.
      *sigh*

      Understand that I think everything I linked to in terms of an article is 2014 or 2015 and newer; with one or two of them being in the last few days.

      I could do this with virtually every one of the 45 points if we simply remove "Communist" or references to Russia. As I said, it's not about it being a "communist plot." It's not even about someone having been a Nostradamus.

      It's about a 'blueprint' having been perceived, laid out, explained, and read into the Congressional Record. It's then about the confluence of those points coming together, almost verbatim in some cases with the language being used, in a relatively short period of time. Simply because it's taken 60 years to lay the foundations and reach such a confluence doesn't mean that the streams aren't coming together.

      We have tasks on hand we need to deal with right here and right now. We should face the enemy we have right here.
      Which is my point. It's called looking at the BIG picture and not simply your little corner of it. Or, as the quote I shared from the article on how Progressives are winning the culture war... "The big prize here is not gun laws. It’s winning the culture war, with the gunfight as the final battle..."

      As the thread on who and what organizations are behind the current 'marches,' Parkland kids, etc. is pointing out, there's more than simply 'anti-gun' proponents at work here. The anti-gun movement is one piece; but, a vital and necessary one. Think about it this way...

      We tend to point out that many forms of gun control in the laws are unconstitutional; but, SCOTUS hasn't necessarily agreed, leaving us with... what?... in many places? We rely on pointing out the two methods the Constitution can be changed; but, too many ignore the fact that all the other side needs is sufficient votes to make that happen. We stake out that the rights recognized and protected by the 2nd Amendment are natural and not Government granted; yet, steadfastly refuse to explore how difficult it would be to exercise those natural rights without those protections.

      Simply dismissing someone as a 'psychic' or a 'palm reader' or a 'religious fanatic' who said 60 years ago that he perceived (and documented) a plan at work, then ignoring how that plan appears to, again, almost verbatim and without a 'shoehorn,' be coming together is...???

      But, hey. I've only got less time that it's likely to take for it all to come to full fruition. Why should I care? I've got other things to worry about? Right?
      Last edited by TrappedinCalifornia; 03-27-2018, 1:45 AM.

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      • #4
        Jimi Jah
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2014
        • 17803

        1963? That was a different country. No one cares anything about 1963 except Kennedy conspiracies.

        And crazy Glenn Beck.

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        • #5
          rootuser
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 3018

          Originally posted by TrappedinCalifornia
          *sigh*

          Understand that I think everything I linked to in terms of an article is 2014 or 2015 and newer; with one or two of them being in the last few days.

          I could do this with virtually every one of the 45 points if we simply remove "Communist" or references to Russia. As I said, it's not about it being a "communist plot." It's not even about someone having been a Nostradamus.

          It's about a 'blueprint' having been perceived, laid out, explained, and read into the Congressional Record. It's then about the confluence of those points coming together, almost verbatim in some cases with the language being used, in a relatively short period of time. Simply because it's taken 60 years to lay the foundations and reach such a confluence doesn't mean that the streams aren't coming together.



          Which is my point. It's called looking at the BIG picture and not simply your little corner of it. Or, as the quote I shared from the article on how Progressives are winning the culture war... "The big prize here is not gun laws. It’s winning the culture war, with the gunfight as the final battle..."

          As the thread on who and what organizations are behind the current 'marches,' Parkland kids, etc. is pointing out, there's more than simply 'anti-gun' proponents at work here. The anti-gun movement is one piece; but, a vital and necessary one. Think about it this way...

          We tend to point out that many forms of gun control in the laws are unconstitutional; but, SCOTUS hasn't necessarily agreed, leaving us with... what?... in many places? We rely on pointing out the two methods the Constitution can be changed; but, too many ignore the fact that all the other side needs is sufficient votes to make that happen. We stake out that the rights recognized and protected by the 2nd Amendment are natural and not Government granted; yet, steadfastly refuse to explore how difficult it would be to exercise those natural rights without those protections.

          Simply dismissing someone as a 'psychic' or a 'palm reader' or a 'religious fanatic' who said 60 years ago that he perceived (and documented) a plan at work, then ignoring how that plan appears to, again, almost verbatim and without a 'shoehorn,' be coming together is...???

          But, hey. I've only got less time that it's likely to take for it all to come to full fruition. Why should I care? I've got other things to worry about? Right?
          Please realize, I am not criticizing what you are saying. If I came off that way it's inadvertent.

          What I am pointing out is that religion teaches us to look around for signs of God for example. And sure enough if you look, you find them in a rainbow (Genesis) or fruit regrowing each year (Kings), or other things like that.

          You have a blueprint here, and if you look for parallels, you'll find them. This doesn't mean the blueprint is wrong. That's not what I'm implying.

          For Parkland, yes, there is a manipulation happening there, but quite honestly, there isn't as much as the fake right would have you believe. These kids WANT what their are asking for. They may not completely understand the implications, but then again, it doesn't take too much reading on these forums to see that a lot of gun owners suffer from the same breaks with reality.

          When this book was written 60 years ago, the blueprint was not novel, it was tracking what was happening in Europe (headed to communism in some places) and the USSR (headed deeper) and was a warning that we shouldn't head the same direction. And certainly there is a point.

          I don't disagree that there is a confluence of some of these things. Some are stretched further than others however.

          For example, people have been calling parts of the constitution outdated for over 60 years. Someone calling it outdated today is not a surprise. I heard these arguments against the 2A when I was a kid. Prohibition was "outdated" and ultimately crushed out.

          Another example would be the foreign aid piece. Using it and withholding it has long been a practice, and will continue to be. Fighting terrorism is important and the point of foreign aid is to offer it to suit our interests. I don't think that has suddenly changed.

          I don't think we have done away with all loyalty oaths either but you've got admit, pledging fealty was used by Hitler quite a bit. A free society doesn't require the degree of oath taking that a communist and or fascist one does. Because someone writes about loyalty oaths being not necessary and at least intellectually absurd doesn't mean we've done away with all of them. A lot of us still sing the national anthem and recite the pledge of allegiance. They are not banned for those of us that choose to take part.

          Progressives "Captured" the republican party and got rid of slavery much to the democrats chagrin. Progressives "captured" the United States as a whole and gave us the 14th amendment. Progressives founded this country with radical ideas like a government for and of the people. There were places in this country that if you cursed in front of a woman you could be ticketed, arrested, or generally find yourself an outcast. I am surprised conservatives don't want to rush back to this and make sure that if you say a bad thing about gay people you are burned at the stake. Instead the conservatives find themselves defending free speech now, where in the past they didn't defend it.

          If progressive means progress, then the progressives will always capture both parties at some point, because progress is inevitable. If conservative means keeping people in the dark ages (think Taliban as a logical extreme) then it is doomed for fail in the long run and the blueprint will ALWAYS be right over any given length of time.

          There are lessons to be learned, and warning to be observed from what you posted, it's true but we aren't one step away from communism quite yet either. That said, we should be diligent, and you bring up a good way to check our diligence.
          Last edited by rootuser; 03-27-2018, 5:48 PM.

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