NY safe act take's vets guns

[ja308]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/01/video-new-york-deputies-knock-vietnam-vets-door-confiscate-guns/

While mistakes can occur with any person or agency, this is a case that could have ended badly for police or the Vietvet. One has to wonder why NY cops choose 930PM to knock on this veterans door to confiscate his legally owned firearms?
The article didn't go into detail whether the NYcops were wearing swat gear and ski masks like democrat administrations typically do, however the you tube made by Mr hall indicated they came to his house with flashing lights and were identified as LEOs.

face it folks democrat administrations are extremely dangerous for law abiding gun owners. Thats why they pass law after law targeting us the New York safe act is just one more example.

Personally I will take a GOP congress/senate that accomplishes absolutely ZERO over a dem admin that has me targeted as an enemy! yeah this is a slap at fake news and snapper heads who keep whining about nothing getting done. irony of irony if democrats got nothing done there would be no dangerous gun laws passed against us or Obama care ruining health care.

[njineermike]

That was not an unintended consequence.

[tsnoforn]

my Brother in law is a veteran in Ohio and his firearms were taken from him for the same reason. The worst part of it is he is just a hunter and sportsman... they took his hunting guns!

And he had to fight tooth and nail to get them back. The county he lives in (a rural county in ohio) is mega crooked. The case he was arguing with them (which he too pro se to the supreme court, even after I offered to represent him) was the driving force.

I did show up for the criminal trial though. He was held almost a month without cause (no, really); even after receiving a writ of habeas corpus from a state court! I had all the charges thrown out within ten minutes of start. Civil suit still pending (5 years now) but I can promise you his retirement will be comfortable.


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[Noble Cause]

New York 2013 SAFE Act.

Working as intended to circumvent that pesky Bill of Rights.



What happened to "innocent until proven guilty ?"

The Anti's Don't Care that they targeted the wrong man, he is a gun
owner, and therefore "guilty" in their maniacal vision of things...

Anti Gun Democrats, destroying the Bill of Rights, step by incremental step.

If you vote Democrat, this is what you support, whether you agree with
it or not.


Noble

[pacrat]

While Mr Don Hall's case is an outrage perpetrated against an honorable US Veteran.

It is a tiny drop in the bucket when compared to the Ca case of "Wright v Beck".

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1100712&highlight=Wright

[kcheung2]

But...but...but... I keep hearing people say they aren't coming for our guns! Especially the people who have no problems with registration, they keep saying the previous registration schemes were harmless and that this new one will be the same...The ones who were eagerly anticipating when the registration website would be up and open, digital cameras at the ready to take pics of the left, right, trigger area, etc to include in the registration docs.

[SkyHawk]

The money quote:

This highlights the heart of the problem with adding gun control onto gun control. The body of gun laws poses no hindrance to criminals–who ignore laws–but it does present problems for law-abiding citizens. Such laws create a scenario where a Vietnam War veteran can be sitting in his home, watching TV at 9:30 p.m., only to have sheriff’s deputies knock on the door and ask for his firearms.

[kcbrown]

Personally I will take a GOP congress/senate that accomplishes absolutely ZERO over a dem admin that has me targeted as an enemy! yeah this is a slap at fake news and snapper heads who keep whining about nothing getting done. irony of irony if democrats got nothing done there would be no dangerous gun laws passed against us or Obama care ruining health care.

Yes, well, remember that it was your claim that the GOP was going to do great things for us, and you used what they've done in the states as evidence that we'd see similar results nationally. Save for the (so far single) Supreme Court nomination, where's the beef?


Certainly a GOP congress that does nothing is better than a Democrat congress that moves us in the wrong direction. There's no question that GOP is better than Democrats here.

But sometimes, as is the case here, "better" simply isn't good enough. If the GOP remains the "do nothing" party then the end result is exactly the same as it would be if the Democrats were in control, save for one thing: the amount of time before all liberty is gone is shorter with the Democrats. That's it. Under those conditions, that's the only difference.

The GOP is composed of people who would actually move us in the right direction, and people who refuse to. The latter hamstrings the former to the degree that the party as a whole can't seem to do anything worthwhile (save for getting good people onto the judiciary -- that alone is worth going for the GOP for).

The answer to this situation is simple, though likely difficult to implement. It's time to kick the "do nothings" in the GOP to the curb in the primaries, to make it clear to the current GOP politicians that they will lose their jobs if they act as if the reason for their election this past cycle means nothing, and that this cycle will continue until the GOP is composed of enough people who are actually willing to take action to restore liberty that it actually happens.

But once the primaries are done, the GOP is, like it or not, the only choice.

[StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca]

"As long as you don't do any thing illegal you have nothing to worry about"

- Officer B. Friendly

[pacrat]

"As long as you don't do any thing illegal you have nothing to worry about"

- Officer B. Friendly

Knock! Knock!

Joe citizen...Who's there?

APPS...APPS

Joe citizen...Who?

APPS...APPS, we're from the Ca DOJ. We just want to ask you some questions.

Joe citizen...Should I call my lawyer?

APPS...No don't call your lawyer. Honest citizens don't need lawyers. [said APPS with their fingers crossed]

[ja308]

Yes, well, remember that it was your claim that the GOP was going to do great things for us, and you used what they've done in the states as evidence that we'd see similar results nationally. Save for the (so far single) Supreme Court nomination, where's the beef?


Certainly a GOP congress that does nothing is better than a Democrat congress that moves us in the wrong direction. There's no question that GOP is better than Democrats here.

But sometimes, as is the case here, "better" simply isn't good enough. If the GOP remains the "do nothing" party then the end result is exactly the same as it would be if the Democrats were in control, save for one thing: the amount of time before all liberty is gone is shorter with the Democrats. That's it. Under those conditions, that's the only difference.


The GOP is composed of people who would actually move us in the right direction, and people who refuse to. The latter hamstrings the former to the degree that the party as a whole can't seem to do anything worthwhile (save for getting good people onto the judiciary -- that alone is worth going for the GOP for).

The answer to this situation is simple, though likely difficult to implement. It's time to kick the "do nothings" in the GOP to the curb in the primaries, to make it clear to the current GOP politicians that they will lose their jobs if they act as if the reason for their election this past cycle means nothing, and that this cycle will continue until the GOP is composed of enough people who are actually willing to take action to restore liberty that it actually happens.

But once the primaries are done, the GOP is, like it or not, the only choice.

So true and thanx for great post!

There was a time when RNC told gun grabbing RINO's that they would get primaried if they voted for Clintons gun ban schemes. That worked well and congress held the line on stopping any subsequent totalitarian democrat gun restrictions.

Another tactic could be the NRA issuing ultimatum's to weak legislators that a nationwide fund raiser to primary them will be underway if no action toward furthering gun rights is forthcoming.

I am hoping cutting the legs out from Democrat strongholds by withholding money and stopping the illegal border invasion could embolden some timid GOP legislators to help solidly the base which includes you and I .

[surfgeorge]

The answer to this situation is simple, though likely difficult to implement. It's time to kick the "do nothings" in the GOP to the curb in the primaries, to make it clear to the current GOP politicians that they will lose their jobs if they act as if the reason for their election this past cycle means nothing, and that this cycle will continue until the GOP is composed of enough people who are actually willing to take action to restore liberty that it actually happens.

But once the primaries are done, the GOP is, like it or not, the only choice.

"Difficult to implement" indeed. The Uniparty has virtually unlimited financial resources to back those who will further their ends. There are only so many "populist uprisings" that can nearly miraculously overcome the odds, especially if the "primarying" gets any early results significant enough to "cause a problem", the Uniparty will direct their resources to that level.

The NRA "endorsements" have a history of being, shall we say, "dubious at best" in many cases.

I'm not sure there is any way out of the current predicament.

I have to admit that I am somewhat surprised by the level and degree of animosity, and to the success, that the Uniparty has mustered to defeating the Trump agenda so far.