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  • #31
    Cowboy T
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2010
    • 5710

    And this kind of thing seems to be why 80% lowers are so popular....
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    • #32
      Intimid8tor
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2007
      • 6607

      Originally posted by Badmusic
      If five people own a mill, why can't five people make their own firearms?
      Do what you want. You may not get caught. It may not be illegal. Or, you might get popped. Most on this board will tell you it's a no-no.

      Write a letter to the atf and/or DOJ and get their answer.
      Originally posted by DeusExMachina
      I don't understand.
      If you have all of the answers, why post argumentative comments and hurl insults. Just do what your gonna do and try not to announce it.

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      • #33
        -hanko
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Jul 2002
        • 14174

        Originally posted by BAJ475
        No, there is a limit. Pass the limit and you are a manufacturer. But yes if you are below the limit. However, you need to understand that it cannot be set up in an assembly line fashion with different members doing different tasks. That would be manufacturing. Each person would have to do all of the work on his or her own lower.
        So that said, can you cite the law that states the maximum number built by someone for his own use? Doubtful, as one does not exist.

        You may be confused by the federal limit on weapons manufactured and SOLD, which was not the question. If you're building for sale, you need an ffl, and >50 per year requires you to be taxed for excise tax, which you pass onto your buyer.

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        • #34
          Badmusic
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 686

          Originally posted by BAJ475
          No, there is a limit. Pass the limit and you are a manufacturer. But yes if you are below the limit. However, you need to understand that it cannot be set up in an assembly line fashion with different members doing different tasks. That would be manufacturing. Each person would have to do all of the work on his or her own lower.
          Thank you for that tip. ( though I am not sure what you mean by limit)
          Last edited by Badmusic; 03-22-2016, 11:16 AM. Reason: Limit

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          • #35
            Rosebud22
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 502

            Of the five, one should take ownership, do his thing then sell it to the next. And so one till all five have finished. Bill of sale should do. To be within the current law, I guess, the mill would have to be moved to the next owners home.

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            • #36
              Hoooper
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 2711

              Originally posted by Badmusic
              Yes, there are smaller and lighter machines. The problem is that in order to maintain accuracy and precision, the machine needs to be very rigid and this makes them very heavy.
              Milling out an effective AR lower really doesnt take much precision aside from the actual trigger pin holes, which are much easier to do precisely on a cheap mill than the actual pocket milling. Heck, on the poly 80% lowers you can fashion a working lower with a dremel. Regarding aluminum AR lowers on a CNC, for about $1200 you can buy and assemble a harbor freight mill and CNC conversion that is more than capable of milling an 80% lower into a fully functioning lower, and it weighs little enough that 2 guys could put it in the back of a truck and move it no problem.

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              • #37
                emtmark
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 2494

                Harbor Freight FTW!!


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