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  • iTz IAN
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 15

    Law Tactical Folding Stock Adapter CA LEGAL????????

    Would this be legal to install on a AR Pistol, since a pistol AR has no stock, and no minimum OAL requirements?

    Also would it be LEGAL to transport with the stock folded since it is technically not assembled, therefore LEGALLY recognized as "gun parts" ?

    Thanks
    Last edited by iTz IAN; 11-20-2014, 5:59 AM.
  • #2
    dozer wright
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    • Mar 2012
    • 2764

    Pistols don't have to have a minimum length. So I would say go.

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    • #3
      mnichols
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 2625

      Uh, no!
      Adding a stock makes it forever into a rifle and would be subject to all rifle laws.
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      • #4
        heidad01
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        • Feb 2012
        • 4902

        ^^^ This. You can not attach a rifle style butt stock to a handgun.

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        • #5
          -hanko
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          • Jul 2002
          • 14174

          Originally posted by dozer wright
          Pistols don't have to have a minimum length. So I would say go.


          I would say "stop".

          Adding a butt stock to a pistol gives you a short-barreled rifle, which is not allowed in California. You'll also have several federal legal issues to bite you in the butt.
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          • #6
            beanz2
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            • Nov 2008
            • 12027

            It's only a folding mechanism to which one can install a pistol buffer tube.
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            • #7
              toddh
              Banned
              • Dec 2010
              • 1914

              Originally posted by heidad01
              ^^^ This. You can not attach a rifle style butt stock to a handgun.

              Sure you can !!

              And then you are violating state and federal laws !!


              OP...

              A pistol is a pistol.

              A rifle is a rifle.

              Don't mix the two, and you'll stay out of jail.


              .

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              • #8
                bsumoba
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 4217

                use the law tactical gen 3 and a Sig Brace....then you're gtg
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                • #9
                  dfletcher
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                  • Dec 2006
                  • 14772

                  Originally posted by mnichols
                  Uh, no!
                  Adding a stock makes it forever into a rifle and would be subject to all rifle laws.
                  The question was about adding the folding device and while that could mean attaching a rifle stock & tube I would presume he means reattaching the pistol buffer tube. As a side note, the "once a rifle always a rifle" restriction is federally long gone, ATF's position has evolved. So long as the firearm started life as a handgun or "other" on 4473 (and to be extra cautious, never 4473'd while in rifle configuration) it can be assembled as a legally configured rifle then returned to a handgun legal configuration.

                  Just supposition, but I suspect what folks are getting at regarding the folding decvice is using it in conjunction with a pistol buffer and the SigTac arm brace.
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                  • #10
                    OUTLAWZ
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 833

                    Originally posted by bsumoba
                    use the law tactical gen 3 and a Sig Brace....then you're gtg
                    ^^^ This.

                    I got to see in person all of these PWS CA packages for sale in bay area gun shops:

                    MK107 DI 7.75 AR Pistol with LAW Tactical/Sig Brace
                    MK110 DI 10.5 AR Pistol with Lucid Red Dot/Sig Brace
                    MK107P Piston 7.75 AR Pistol with Magpul BUIS/Sig Brace (Couldn't help myself, Mine is arriving Friday. LAW Tactical Gen 3 adapter ordered but out of stock.)
                    MK110P Piston 10.5 AR Pistol with Magpul BUIS/Sig Brace

                    The use of the LAW Tactical AR buffer tube adapter is for ease of transportation of your firearm.

                    You can not repeatedly fire the firearm while it is in the open position (Broken down).

                    You can fire your firearm when it is in the closed position (Full Length).

                    Using the adapter any other way to create a "SBR" is at your own risk and not advised.

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                    • #11
                      Josh3239
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 9189

                      Wow, can't believe that many people have no idea what the OP was talking about.

                      Guys it is a hinge to allow the pistol extension tube to fold and it is absolutely legal.

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                      • #12
                        bsumoba
                        Veteran Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 4217

                        Originally posted by Josh3239
                        Wow, can't believe that many people have no idea what the OP was talking about.

                        Guys it is a hinge to allow the pistol extension tube to fold and it is absolutely legal.
                        he just simply had a mix of phrasing and verbage on his OP.

                        he mentions no stock, then his last sentence mentions a stock...that's all. he should have just said folded buffer tube not stock. then...maybe....just maybe....people wouldnt have read it wrong.
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                        • #13
                          Sniper3142
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                          • May 2004
                          • 2579

                          So much FAIL in this thread.

                          Basic reading comprehension would help.

                          On an AR Pistol, the Law Tactical Folding Stock Adapter is LEGAL since it is NOT A STOCK. It is simply an ADAPTER used to allow whatever is attached to it to Fold. So just put a Pistol Tube on it and your good to go and LEGAL.
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                          • #14
                            iTz IAN
                            Junior Member
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 15

                            Thank you all

                            For the second part of the question........

                            Would it be LEGAL to transport with the "pistol tube/sigbrace" folded since it is technically not assembled, therefore LEGALLY recognized as "gun parts" ?

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                            • #15
                              OUTLAWZ
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 833

                              Originally posted by iTz IAN
                              Thank you all

                              For the second part of the question........

                              Would it be LEGAL to transport with the "pistol tube/sigbrace" folded since it is technically not assembled, therefore LEGALLY recognized as "gun parts" ?
                              Why would it not be legal? If the adapter is used the way it was legally designed use for, Why would it not be legal once you attach the adapter to your firearm and transport it? Yes, it is a "firearm accessory" and not an actual "gun part".

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