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OK. The framing is about to be finished in my CA home (OC). Can I build a safe in there? I found the DOJ safe info. Is it easier if I bought and placed safe(s) there?
Please help.
Thanks.
Please help.
Thanks.
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Last edited by Bachekermooni; 07-06-2014, 5:28 PM.Do it right the first time.
My father one told me "Remember son, stupidity has no limits." I had no idea how true that was, until I ... -
No requirement to have a safe. CA law requires a trigger lock, bought in the last thirty days, for every gun you buy, unless you have a safe (in which case you sign a piece of paper at the gunstore saying that you have a safe before walking out). Even if you have a safe, FEDERAL law requires it with handguns
Recently they expanded the law about unsafe storage.
It is not as strict as some think
25100. (a) Except as provided in Section 25105, a person commits
the crime of "criminal storage of a firearm in the first degree" if
all of the following conditions are satisfied:
(1) The person keeps any loaded firearm within any premises that
are under the person's custody or control.
(2) The person knows or reasonably should know that a child is
likely to gain access to the firearm without the permission of the
child's parent or legal guardian, or that a person prohibited from
possessing a firearm or deadly weapon pursuant to state or federal
law is likely to gain access to the firearm.
(3) The child obtains access to the firearm and thereby causes
death or great bodily injury to the child or any other person, or the
person prohibited from possessing a firearm or deadly weapon
pursuant to state or federal law obtains access to the firearm and
thereby causes death or great bodily injury to himself or herself or
any other person.
(b) Except as provided in Section 25105, a person commits the
crime of "criminal storage of a firearm in the second degree" if all
of the following conditions are satisfied:
(1) The person keeps any loaded firearm within any premises that
are under the person's custody or control.
(2) The person knows or reasonably should know that a child is
likely to gain access to the firearm without the permission of the
child's parent or legal guardian, or that a person prohibited from
possessing a firearm or deadly weapon pursuant to state or federal
law is likely to gain access to the firearm.
(3) The child obtains access to the firearm and thereby causes
injury, other than great bodily injury, to the child or any other
person, or carries the firearm either to a public place or in
violation of Section 417, or the person prohibited from possessing a
firearm or deadly weapon pursuant to state or federal law obtains
access to the firearm and thereby causes injury, other than great
bodily injury, to himself or herself or any other person, or carries
the firearm either to a public place or in violation of Section 417.
The new part states
(c) Except as provided in Section 25105, a person commits the
crime of "criminal storage of a firearm in the third degree" if the
person keeps any loaded firearm within any premises that are under
the person's custody or control and negligently stores or leaves a
loaded firearm in a location where the person knows, or reasonably
should know, that a child is likely to gain access to the firearm
without the permission of the child's parent or legal guardian,
unless reasonable action is taken by the person to secure the firearm
against access by the child.
A safe or trigger lock would be reasonable action. Or the gun could just be unloaded!
Also exceptions
25105. Section 25100 does not apply whenever any of the following
occurs:
(a) The child obtains the firearm as a result of an illegal entry
to any premises by any person.
(b) The firearm is kept in a locked container or in a location
that a reasonable person would believe to be secure.
(c) The firearm is carried on the person or within close enough
proximity thereto that the individual can readily retrieve and use
the firearm as if carried on the person.
(d) The firearm is locked with a locking device, as defined in
Section 16860, which has rendered the firearm inoperable.
(e) The person is a peace officer or a member of the Armed Forces
or the National Guard and the child obtains the firearm during, or
incidental to, the performance of the person's duties.
(f) The child obtains, or obtains and discharges, the firearm in a
lawful act of self-defense or defense of another person.
(g) The person who keeps a loaded firearm on premises that are
under the person's custody or control has no reasonable expectation,
based on objective facts and circumstances, that a child is likely to
be present on the premises.
Actually, this is less strict than the law in Texas. A safe is a good idea. But as long as you have no children or children over or keep them unloaded or keep it within your control (home carry is fine here)...you get the pointComment
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So as long as the firearm is unloaded, all is well? Is there any provisions regarding the ammo? Being near the firearm?Do it right the first time.
My father one told me "Remember son, stupidity has no limits." I had no idea how true that was, until I ...Comment
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No provisions regarding ammo unless a felon can get to it.
Regarding firearms, CA has a law that makes you liable if a child (person under 18) obtains the firearm and does anything with it. For this, you must have it locked if there is a chance a child may obtain it. Otherwise, there are no provisions about it being unloaded in your private residence.Comment
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