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Illegal to transport firearms on fwy 280 between mountain view and menlo park?

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  • #31
    DSB
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 1005

    The original post is easily one of the most illogical questions I have seen on this site.

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    • #32
      Decoligny
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Mar 2008
      • 10615

      (i) Notwithstanding Section 25605, any person who brings or possesses a firearm upon the grounds of a campus of, or buildings owned or operated for student housing, teaching, research, or administration by, a public or private university or college, that are contiguous or are clearly marked university property, unless it is with the written permission of the university or college president, his or her designee, or equivalent university or college authority, shall be punished by imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170 for one, two, or three years. Notwithstanding subdivision (k), a university or college shall post a prominent notice at primary entrances on noncontiguous property stating that firearms are prohibited on that property pursuant to this subdivision.

      Breaking this down into its component parts:

      the grounds of a campus of a public or private university or college that are contiguous or are clearly marked university property

      or

      buildings owned or operated for student housing, teaching, research, or administration by, a public or private university or college, that are contiguous or are clearly marked university property

      Not all the land owned by the college is considered "the campus".
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      • #33
        dwtt
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2005
        • 7470

        Originally posted by TheShagg
        Actually my intent is to show that the extent and the ramifications of the law are orders of magnitude worse than most people, even calgunners, believe, and they must be shot down.

        If what I say is true, I think it is a lot easier to explain to the common person why this is crazy, than trying to explain why a "safe handgun roster" is a bad thing, or a magazine capacity limit is bad.
        OK, let's say your command of legal concepts of land rights is above anyone else in the state of California and it is illegal to transport firearms on 280 through the part that qualifies as college property (which is completely without merit since you don't understand the law). What are you going to do about it?
        Are you going to hold a protest at Stanford?
        Are you going to write up a website to "raise awareness" to this problem?
        Are you going to write to your legislator to have the laws changed?
        Are you going to raise money to buy the land from Stanford to take it out of the hands of the college?

        I know the answers to those questions; you're going to do nothing. This thread is just an exercise in vanity for you. You're not the first and will not be the last to do so.

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        • #34
          Jimi Jah
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2014
          • 18255

          Just drive quickly, do not pass go and pay those railroads if you land on one.

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          • #35
            TheShagg
            Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 352

            Originally posted by dwtt
            I know the answers to those questions; you're going to do nothing. This thread is just an exercise in vanity for you. You're not the first and will not be the last to do so.

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            • #36
              sfpcservice
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 1879

              Originally posted by dwtt
              Has anyone else noticed the group of new people with low post counts posting a bunch of really stupid questions in the 2nd A forums then trying to back them up with their own "research" that is flawed?
              I sense the antis are trying to spread FUD by appealing to two groups of gunowners; the wacko fringe types who believe conspiracies everywhere and the naive ones who aren't knowledgable about the laws and susceptible to FUD.
              I think what is really happening is we gladly give them all the information they need to more effectively ban things. After a quick question here, we tell them EVERY law they need to change in order to outlaw what they wanted to all along.
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              • #37
                TheShagg
                Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 352

                Originally posted by Decoligny
                (i) Notwithstanding Section 25605, any person who brings or possesses a firearm upon the grounds of a campus of, or buildings owned or operated for student housing, teaching, research, or administration by, a public or private university or college, that are contiguous or are clearly marked university property, unless it is with the written permission of the university or college president, his or her designee, or equivalent university or college authority, shall be punished by imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170 for one, two, or three years. Notwithstanding subdivision (k), a university or college shall post a prominent notice at primary entrances on noncontiguous property stating that firearms are prohibited on that property pursuant to this subdivision.

                Breaking this down into its component parts:

                the grounds of a campus of a public or private university or college that are contiguous or are clearly marked university property

                or

                buildings owned or operated for student housing, teaching, research, or administration by, a public or private university or college, that are contiguous or are clearly marked university property

                Not all the land owned by the college is considered "the campus".
                It's the part (k) that makes me doubt, since it says "property", in general. I would hope you get a jury and the jury has brains.

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                • #38
                  Tincon
                  Mortuus Ergo Invictus
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 5062

                  Originally posted by TheShagg
                  It's the part (k) that makes me doubt, since it says "property", in general. I would hope you get a jury and the jury has brains.
                  Juries don't decide issues of law.
                  My posts may contain general information related to the law, however, THEY ARE NOT LEGAL ADVICE AND I AM NOT A LAWYER. I recommend you consult a lawyer if you want legal advice. No attorney-client or confidential relationship exists or will be formed between myself and any other person on the basis of these posts. Pronouns I may use (such as "you" and "your") do NOT refer to any particular person under any circumstance.

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                  • #39
                    -hanko
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 14174

                    Originally posted by DSB
                    The original post is easily one of the most illogical questions I have seen on this site.
                    Maybe only second to bear threads?
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                    • #40
                      -hanko
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 14174

                      Originally posted by TheShagg
                      It's the part (k) that makes me doubt, since it says "property", in general. I would hope you get a jury and the jury has brains.
                      I would submit the "has brains" part would be more applicable to the original post.
                      Last edited by -hanko; 07-14-2014, 9:51 PM.
                      True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

                      Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

                      Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

                      A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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                      • #41
                        aBrowningfan
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 1475

                        Originally posted by TheShagg
                        Huh, I am pretty sure that map is not disclosing everything. For instance, I think SLAC, which is shown on that map, is owned by the university, and you can clearly see where it goes under the freeway.

                        At the other extreme, there is this:

                        But I think that might be including the entire county. I doubt some of that is owned by stanford.
                        Ummm. There is a sign at the Sand Hill Road entrance to SLAC that states that Stanford U. operates SLAC for the U.S. DOE. SLAC is owned by the Federales.

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                        • #42
                          taperxz
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 19395

                          Originally posted by aBrowningfan
                          Ummm. There is a sign at the Sand Hill Road entrance to SLAC that states that Stanford U. operates SLAC for the U.S. DOE. SLAC is owned by the Federales.
                          The land it sits on belongs to Stanford though. They still don't own 280 though.

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                          • #43
                            Flintlock Tom
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 3353

                            I suspect that if Stanford "owned" that section of 280 there would be a tollbooth there.
                            "Everyone must determine for themselves what level of tyranny they are willing to tolerate.
                            I let my CA residency expire in 2015."

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