crossing state line with bulk ammo / and or powder

[1badjack68]

How much bulk ammo and or powder can you cross state line without having to have a hasmat license and or placard?

[flatbedtruckin]

No placard needed if transporting in a non commercial vehicle ie rental truck,semi... if its in your personal vehicle, how much can u cram in your trunk and back seat?

[Bigbuyer2477]

Good question, always bought bulk ammo online but never drove them myself. I would assume it's ok. How much is bulk in your situation?

[pterrell]

No placard needed if transporting in a non commercial vehicle ie rental truck,semi... if its in your personal vehicle, how much can u cram in your trunk and back seat?

does a trailer count as a private vehicle or an extension of it? like a horse or utility trailer for example.

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[1badjack68]

Mostly power, and some bulk small caliber . In all around 200/300lbs

[Bigbuyer2477]

Mostly power, and some bulk small caliber . In all around 200/300lbs

Knowing CA they probably have a law regulating the amount of gun powder you can possess.

[-hanko]

How much bulk ammo and or powder can you cross state line without having to have a hasmat license and or placard?

Whatever you'd like to haul, assuming you're in a private vehicle, as was posted.

does a trailer count as a private vehicle or an extension of it? like a horse or utility trailer for example.

Absolutely.

[Dutch3]

California Vehicle Code says 20 lbs of smokeless or 5 lbs of black powder are OK without placarding.

"27903. (a) Subject to Section 114765 of the Health and Safety Code, any vehicle transporting any explosive, blasting agent, flammable liquid, flammable solid, oxidizing material, corrosive, compressed gas, poison, radioactive material, or other hazardous materials, of the type and in quantities that require the display of placards or markings on the vehicle exterior by the United States Department of Transportation regulations (49 C.F.R., Parts 172, 173, and 177), shall display the placards and markings in the manner and under conditions prescribed by those regulations of the United States Department of Transportation.

(b) This section does not apply to the following:

(1) Any vehicle transporting not more than 20 pounds of smokeless powder or not more than five pounds of black sporting powder or any combination thereof.

(2) An authorized emergency vehicle as defined in paragraph (1) of subdivision (b) of Section 165, operated by a peace officer as defined in Sections 830.1 and 830.2 of the Penal Code, when transportation is required within the scope and course of law enforcement explosives detection or removal duties, provided one of the following conditions applies:

(A) The law enforcement agency operating the vehicle complies with regulations adopted by the California Highway Patrol pursuant to subdivision (b) of Section 34501, notwithstanding Section 34500 and subdivision (a) of Section 34501.

(B) The peace officer possesses an exemption issued by the commissioner, who may require additional transportation restrictions as deemed appropriate. "

[1badjack68]

^^^Thank you very much Dutch^^^

[Jimi Jah]

Don't forget the agricutural inspection station. Tell them you have powder, not fruit.

[Steve_In_29]

Don't forget the agricutural inspection station. Tell them you have powder, not fruit.

If you mean the one on the 40, there is a local surface street that bypasses it.

OP, if no one knows you have it, then how much you are "allowed" is a moot point.

[canopis]

Knowing CA they probably have a law regulating the amount of gun powder you can possess.

It appears that you have to have a permit if you are in possession of more than 20 pounds of smokeless powder:

Health and Safety Code 12000 defines "explosives" to include smokeless powder and black powder;

Health and Safety Code 12101 requires a permit to "Receive, store, or possess explosives"; and

Health and Safety Code 12102 says that the permit requirement does not apply to "20 pounds or less of smokeless powder, or one pound or less of black sporting powder" as long as the powder is for private use.

Health and Safety Code 12102 also says your "storage, use and handling" of powder has to conform to your local "rules, regulations, or ordinances" regarding explosives, so there may be additional, local restrictions.

[flatbedtruckin]

does a trailer count as a private vehicle or an extension of it? like a horse or utility trailer for example.

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As to my knowledge, private trailers are gtg.. when towing trailer, it is concidered a "combination" and therefore is NOT an extension but a seperate vehicle in it self (hence the reason for a trailer license plate ) chp only keeps an eye on commercial or rental/delivery vehicles and thoes are the only vehicles required to make stops st chp inspection/weigh stations... so if you are in your car with trailer or p/u truck with trailer you will be fine... but as stated above local and state rules and regulations apply when transporting flammables/explosives (smokeless powder).. transport responsibly and with care..

[DisgruntledReaper]

Don't forget the agricutural inspection station. Tell them you have powder, not fruit.

They dont ask about ammo or components, they ask about FRUIT, dont say a damn thing, ..' you have any fruit or veggies sir?'.. 'No I do not'... 'ok, have a good day'...'you also'..

People feel compelled to tell others when it is a 'need to know' ...and there is no need to know...... NOW if you have 12 date palms in your pickup, they may have an interest....

It is you truck, you are doing nothing illegal, drive on......