hi cap mag question

[Click Boom]

Can I order a 10/30 mag online and use the exterior to repair my legally owned pre-2000 30 rounders?

Thanks.

Change out body, use old spring/follower/plate type of deal.

[Librarian]

Yes.

I don't know how well that will work, since the 10-round limit might be difficult to reverse - that's a requirement for such a 30-reduced-to-10.

But it's buying a 10-round mag, which is legal.

[SocomM4]

Wondering if there has been any changes to the wording regarding "permanent"?

[Quiet]

Wondering if there has been any changes to the wording regarding "permanent"?

There has been no change in the wording regarding "permanent".

[CWDraco]

Permanent is forever... its NOT a physical condition. Nothing is physically PERMANENT....its only permanent until its changed.

If you "permanently alter" something , it must remain that way forever, never to be changed... that doesnt mean it CAN'T be changed...only that if changed you have voided the "permanently" portion of the alteration.

So I will disagree with Librarian on this one...as per the law, NO you cannot order a 10/30 body and use it to repair a 30rd magazine. A 10/30 body is ONLY legal if the 10/30 alteration is permanent. Using a 10/30 body turns a legal 30rd magazine into a NEWLY manufactured Large Capacity Magazine, which was manufactured in CA after 2000...therefore its ILLEGAL unless you fall under one of the exemptions to manufacturing a LCM.

It's my understanding, you can only repair a legal 30rd magazine with a 30rd magazine body.

[CWDraco]

example---

I own a Glock gen 1 purchased in 1990. It came with two 17rd magazines.
I also own a Glock gen 3 purchased in 2010. It came with two 10rd magazines.

One of my 17rd magazines cracks...it got run over by a train. I cannot take apart my 10/17 magazine, remove the limiting device(s) (the ribs), then rebuild my 17rd magazine with that body. I have voided "permanently" while inside the CA borders, therefore I manufactured a LCM post 2000.

Now what I do while in Arizona to my legal magazines is my business.

[BKinzey]

Permanent is forever... its NOT a physical condition. Nothing is physically PERMANENT....its only permanent until its changed.....

There is the term assault weapon, and the legal definition of assault weapon. They aren't the same. You aren't using the legal definition.

[Click Boom]

So no go?

[CWDraco]

So no go?

Its a No-Go using my definition...and mine is the one most voiced as correct by the controlling agency...the DOJ

There is the term assault weapon, and the legal definition of assault weapon. They aren't the same. You aren't using the legal definition.

No, I think the legal definition of Assault Rifle is not the same legal definition of Assault Weapon. In CA the legal definition of AW is the same we all use as an AW. in say New Jersey that might be different, as their definition of large capacity magazine might be different as well.

I authored a 3 or 5 page post detailing why my definition is the same as the DOJ for "Permanently Altered". I cited numerous references as well as industry standards used in the firearms community.

No one INCLUDING me is saying I am 100% right...I have confidence I have interpreted correctly what the DOJ said back in 2000...but that doesnt mean they can't talk out of the other side of their face sometime in the future.

[BKinzey]

....In CA the legal definition of AW is the same we all use as an AW....

Previous to the legal definition an assault weapon wasn't limited to a type of firearm. A mace could be used as an assault weapon. But now, legally, a mace is no longer an assault weapon.