PTSD and APPS

[AIbandit]

What is the specific requirements to get thrown on the prohibited persons list?
I've looked around but can't find anything solid.

Should I be concerned because of my VA PTSD diagnosis? I contend that PTSD isn't an illness but a natural human adaption but I doubt CA agrees or cares for that matter.

This is going to make people not want to get help. What's worse an untreated "illness" with a gun or a treated "illness" with one.

[Librarian]

1) doing any of the things in this list: http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/prohibcatmisd.pdf

2) A restraining or protective order

[RickD427]

You may want to some forum research here.

About a year ago, I was involved in a discussion with a gentleman who was under the impression that the VA was taking action that would deprive veterans of their right to possess firearms.

At the beginning of that discussion, I was very disbelieving of him, and I invited him to provide some basis for his statements. I also cited the same standards to him that are contained in Librarian's post above.

What I learned through the thread was that the V.A. did submit names of individuals to the FBI for inclusion in their list of prohibited persons where the V.A. believed that their classification process met the requirement of an "adjudication" as that term is used in 18 USC 922.

I was quite surprised, and a little disturbed, at learning this. I personally don't agree that an executive agency can perform an "adjudication." The issue may be ripe for a court test. I haven't seen one thus far.

[tnlrat37]

My buddy is 100% va with PTSD, he's had his ccw for 2 years. He's in San berdoo county. It would be a damn shame to prohibit for that. Alot of cops are diagnosed with PTSD after incidents on the job, are they gonna make them prohibited too. Then they'd go after anyone on meds, then speeding tix, then everyone. Slippery slope of BS.

[NastyNate]

although, HIPPA at the moment, prevents your VA medical records from being disclosed to the feds. A few whips of the pen, can change that. It is a common belief amongst vets that the feds would like to disarm everyone, especially Vets that are trained in weapons handling and combat techniques.
As a disabled Vet, I would recommend that you tread lightly when speaking to the mental health staff at the VA. The key here is to present yourself to the VA as a competent person with command of yourself and able to exercise good judgement. Points for steady employment, living situation and lack of a criminal record, substance and alky abuse.
I would personally recommend that you avoid the pharma cocktails that they advocate. I have found that a rigorous PT regimen, regular meditation and holistic, natural medicines are the keys for coping with PTSD. It will always be with you, but doesn't have to own you. It is part of you, but not who you are.
Welcome back brother and thank you for your service. You are one of the few that can that have answered the call to voluntary service on the behalf of our great nation.

[RickD427]

although, HIPPA at the moment, prevents your VA medical records from being disclosed to the feds. A few whips of the pen, can change that. It is a common belief amongst vets that the feds would like to disarm everyone, especially Vets that are trained in weapons handling and combat techniques.
As a disabled Vet, I would recommend that you tread lightly when speaking to the mental health staff at the VA. The key here is to present yourself to the VA as a competent person with command of yourself and able to exercise good judgement. Points for steady employment, living situation and lack of a criminal record, substance and alky abuse.
I would personally recommend that you avoid the pharma cocktails that they advocate. I have found that a rigorous PT regimen, regular meditation and holistic, natural medicines are the keys for coping with PTSD. It will always be with you, but doesn't have to own you. It is part of you, but not who you are.
Welcome back brother and thank you for your service. You are one of the few that can that have answered the call to voluntary service on the behalf of our great nation.

Actually, HIPAA allows the VA to disclose information showing that persons are prohibited from possessing firearms. Please refer to 45 CFR 164.512(a) and (f)

[Librarian]

(And please, it's H I P A A - Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act. http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/)

[AIbandit]

Thanks everyone.
Can't get much more solid than that Librarian, I appreciate it.

I always tread lightly around the VA. They put me on meds for it once but my nightmares felt insanely real when I was on it. I stopped immediately, and haven't mentioned it to them again but the diagnosis is still there.

I'd never assume the VA would obey HIPAA anyway they don't obey their own rules.

[steelrain82]

For ptsd the VA doesn't report it unless you admit that you are thinking about hurting yourself or others to a doc. Then by law they are bound to report you. Other than that ptsd is an OK thing to have...With regards to firearms. Or if the VA provides you a fiduciary to handle your money because you aren't responsible for handling it yourself. Then they magically deem you incompetent to own a firearm and report you to the fbi and do and get your rights removed.