Arrest Warrants and idiots “Asking for a friend”

[five.five-six]

So, I know of a guy, sort of an idiot, but a good guy. Anyways, dude is married with children and has a home they have lived in since forever. Well, this guy’s wife is really hot, way too good looking for the likes of him and even though he is dumb AF at least he knows that.

Well, his wife has friends from way back and one of these friends is married and kids and and is “residentially marginalized”.

Bout 4 years ago hot wife asks stupid husband if they could let her old friend’s worthless homeless family use their mailing address because old friend is always moving and can’t always know which free hotel they may be staying at or where their RV may be stalled out at or impounded. Dumb AF husband says yes and hot wife makes him very happy.


Well, almost a year ago “residentially marginalized family” goes MIA and mail from impound yards, LEO agencies, summons, hearing notices, lawyers etc start piling up.


So being as this idiot’s house is the last known address of these ne'er-do-wells, even though to they have never even been to the house, would a warrant for one of these people’s arrest require dummy to allow LE to search his home?


Asking fro a friend.

[WOODY2]

So, I know of a guy, sort of an idiot, but a good guy. Anyways, dude is married with children and has a home they have lived in since forever. Well, this guy’s wife is really hot, way too good looking for the likes of him and even though he is dumb AF at least he knows that.

Well, his wife has friends from way back and one of these friends is married and kids and and is “residentially marginalized”.

Bout 4 years ago hot wife asks stupid husband if they could let her old friend’s worthless homeless family use their mailing address because old friend is always moving and can’t always know which free hotel they may be staying at or where their RV may be stalled out at or impounded. Dumb AF husband says yes and hot wife makes him very happy.


Well, almost a year ago “residentially marginalized family” goes MIA and mail from impound yards, LEO agencies, summons, hearing notices, lawyers etc start piling up.


So being as this idiot’s house is the last known address of these ne'er-do-wells, even though to they have never even been to the house, would a warrant for one of these people’s arrest require dummy to allow LE to search his home?


Asking fro a friend.

Even Elvis knows... Return to sender, address unknown?

[CBR_rider]

Lots of variables; but it in a nutshell an arrest warrant could give law enforcement the authority to search the house if the information points to the bums living there. Or law enforcement could get a search warrant if they believed bums didn’t live there but were currently inside.

If the bums must be “helped,” pay for them to have their own mail box at a post office or private mail center. Will be money well spent.

[MountainLion]

So being as this idiot’s house is the last known address of these ne'er-do-wells, even though to they have never even been to the house, would a warrant for one of these people’s arrest require dummy to allow LE to search his home?

An arrest warrant, combined with a reasonable suspicion that the person to be arrested is in the house, would definitely allow LE to look for the person to be arrested in the house. Since a person can't hide in a desk drawer, file cabinet, or gun safe, it would not give them standing to open those places.

On the other hand, a search warrant for information about the whereabouts of that person, for documents pertaining to their activities or location, or for property owned by them (such as guns) would definitely give them standing to look pretty much everywhere, including on computers and cell phones, and inside safes. To get such a warrant, they would have to show cause to the judge who approves the warrant that the above things can plausibly be found there.

I don't have enough experience with criminal procedure to guess what kind of warrant they would obtain. And that clearly depends on the kinds of things the person is accused of doing.

[RickD427]

An arrest warrant, combined with a reasonable suspicion that the person to be arrested is in the house, would definitely allow LE to look for the person to be arrested in the house. Since a person can't hide in a desk drawer, file cabinet, or gun safe, it would not give them standing to open those places.

On the other hand, a search warrant for information about the whereabouts of that person, for documents pertaining to their activities or location, or for property owned by them (such as guns) would definitely give them standing to look pretty much everywhere, including on computers and cell phones, and inside safes. To get such a warrant, they would have to show cause to the judge who approves the warrant that the above things can plausibly be found there.

I don't have enough experience with criminal procedure to guess what kind of warrant they would obtain. And that clearly depends on the kinds of things the person is accused of doing.

Mr. MountainLion pretty much nailed it.

But to use an arrest warrant as a basis to search a residence for the person named in the warrant only works if the sought-after person is a resident of the location. But if they've been using that address, that can support a belief that they were a resident. If LEOs searched the home under that belief, and were ultimately shown to be wrong, there really isn't much recourse open to the proper residents.

To properly search a residence for a suspect who is the subject of an arrest warrant, but who is not a resident of the location to be searched requires a Steagald Warrant.

[M1NM]

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[five.five-six]

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Bacon.