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  • Yuki
    Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 374

    Interstate intrafamilial transfer shipping between 2 bass pro shops

    My son is a Washington state resident and wants to gift me a pistol. I am a California resident.
    He was told that if he purchased the pistol at Bass Pro/Cabelas/Sportsmans Warehouse, in Washington, he could have it transferred between stores at no cost.
    I could then go to the store in California and start dros.
    Does anyone have info on this?
    The gun would be a Washington approved S&W Shield Plus.
    Thank you!
  • #2
    Quiet
    retired Goon
    • Mar 2007
    • 30241

    Originally posted by Yuki
    My son is a Washington state resident and wants to gift me a pistol. I am a California resident.
    He was told that if he purchased the pistol at Bass Pro/Cabelas/Sportsmans Warehouse, in Washington, he could have it transferred between stores at no cost.
    I could then go to the store in California and start dros.
    Does anyone have info on this?
    The gun would be a Washington approved S&W Shield Plus.
    Thank you!
    In order for a CA FFL dealer to be able to legally transfer the handgun to a CA resident, the handgun needs to be CA legal and needs to be listed on the CA DOJ Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale or be exempt from it.

    CA legal meaning it is not considered a restricted weapon under CA assault weapons laws or CA generally prohibited weapons laws (SBR, SBS, etc).
    ^It also means that the firearm does not include any large capacity (11+ round) magazines or large capacity magazine parts kits.

    An out-of-state intra-familial gift of a handgun exempts the handgun from needing to be listed on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale.
    In order to qualify for this exemption all of the following conditions must be met:
    1. The person gifting the firearm owns the CA legal firearm.*
    2. The transfer is infrequent (less than six during a calendar year).
    3. The transfer is between immediate family members (grandparent, parent, child, grandchild).
    4. The CA legal firearm includes a copy of the transferor's valid State DL/ID and a gift letter from the transferor.

    *Per BATFE and CA DOJ BOF, a person that pays for a firearm and does not take possession of it (4473/NICS/DROS), does not own that firearm.

    Therefore...

    If your WA son pays for a handgun and has it shipped to a CA FFL dealer, then the CA legal handgun needs to be listed on the CA DOJ Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale or be exempt from it (you are an eligible LEO or the handgun is a C&R or the handgun is a SAE or the handgun is a SSE2).
    ^This transfer does not qualify for the out-of-state intra-familial gift exemption.

    If your WA son buys a handgun, which is transferred to them through a WA FFL dealer, and then ships that CA legal handgun to your CA FFL dealer as a gift, then the handgun is exempt from needing to be listed on the CA DOJ Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale because it is eligible for the out-of-state intra-familial gift exemption.


    Note that...

    Not all CA FFL dealers know about or are willing to conduct an out-of-state intra-familial gift transfer.
    So, finding a CA FFL dealer that will do this is the most important first step.

    Also, be aware that the CA FFL dealer can legally charge any amount of money to facilitate this type of transfer.
    Last edited by Quiet; 07-01-2024, 4:46 PM.
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    • #3
      BAJ475
      Calguns Addict
      • Jul 2014
      • 5092

      Originally posted by Quiet

      In order for a CA FFL dealer to be able to legally transfer the handgun to a CA resident, the handgun needs to be CA legal and needs to be listed on the CA DOJ Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale or be exempt from it.

      CA legal meaning it is not considered a restricted weapon under CA assault weapons laws or CA generally prohibited weapons laws (SBR, SBS, etc).
      ^It also means that the firearm does not include any large capacity (11+ round) magazines or large capacity magazine parts kits.

      An out-of-state intra-familial gift of a handgun exempts the handgun from needing to be listed on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale.
      In order to qualify for this exemption all of the following conditions must be met:
      1. The person gifting the firearm owns the CA legal firearm.*
      2. The transfer is infrequent (less than six during a calendar year).
      3. The transfer is between immediate family members (grandparent, parent, child, grandchild).
      4. The CA legal firearm includes a copy of the transferor's valid State DL/ID and a gift letter from the transferor.

      *Per BATFE and CA DOJ BOF, a person that pays for a firearm and does not take possession of it (4473/NICS/DROS), does not own that firearm.

      Therefore...

      If your WA son pays for a handgun and has it shipped to a CA FFL dealer, then the CA legal handgun needs to be listed on the CA DOJ Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale or be exempt from it (you are an eligible LEO or the handgun is a C&R or the handgun is a SAE or the handgun is a SSE2).
      ^This transfer does not qualify for the out-of-state intra-familial gift exemption.

      If your WA son buys a handgun, which is transferred to them through a WA FFL dealer, and then ships that CA legal handgun to your CA FFL dealer as a gift, then the handgun is exempt from needing to be listed on the CA DOJ Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale because it is eligible for the out-of-state intra-familial gift exemption.


      Note that...

      Not all CA FFL dealers know about or are willing to conduct an out-of-state intra-familial gift transfer.
      So, finding a CA FFL dealer that will do this is the most important first step.

      Also, be aware that the CA FFL dealer can legally charge any amount of money to facilitate this type of transfer.
      While OP did not directly say so, as you point out, son must take possession of the handgun. So son would need to check with the WA FFL on whether they would then ship it at no cost. And as you also point out, it is critical to find a CA FFL that is willing to handle an out-of-state intra-familial gift transfer and not charge an excessive amount for the transfer.

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      • #4
        Dvrjon
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Nov 2012
        • 11304

        Another little glitch in this process may arise at the receiving FFL. Last week, I was told by Sportsman?s that they will not do PPT of off-roster guns. While this is not a PPT per-se, they may also have restrictions on interstate, intra-familial transfer of off-roster guns.

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        • #5
          Yuki
          Member
          • Aug 2013
          • 374

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