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  • USMCmatt
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2015
    • 803

    Stripped lowers

    What about a stripped lower? Can you register a stripped lower as a pistol if you move here with one? Then for caliber…do you put multi? Our do you decide what caliber you’ll make it? I know laws change like crazy here.
    Last edited by USMCmatt; 07-31-2023, 9:57 PM.
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  • #2
    Djantlive
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2021
    • 612

    A pistol you already have as an out of state resident should be ok

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    • #3
      USMCmatt
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2015
      • 803

      Stripped lowers

      I know laws change, and I’ve found very conflicting information. Can you still register a stripped lower as a pistol if you move here with one? If so, when registering, what do you put for caliber?do you put multi? Our do you decide what caliber you’ll make it?.
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      • #4
        ARDude
        Veteran Member
        • May 2006
        • 2723

        Your best option is to build it out as a complete pistol (with compliant lock of your choice) before moving to Ca. And remember, an AR pistol must use a 10 round or less magazine to avoid AW regulations.
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        • #5
          edgerly779
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Aug 2009
          • 19871

          Depends on what the 4473 listed it as.

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          • #6
            USMCmatt
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2015
            • 803

            Originally posted by edgerly779
            Depends on what the 4473 listed it as.
            I'll have to follow up on that since I don't recall what the form said. I do have a complete out of state that I could bring in with some modifications.
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            • #7
              USMCmatt
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2015
              • 803

              It was listed as an “Other” on the 4473 per the FFL
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              • #8
                edgerly779
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Aug 2009
                • 19871

                Then can be assembled as a pistol .but do not know about safe handgun, etc. Might gave to be single shot.

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                • #9
                  Quiet
                  retired Goon
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 30241

                  Originally posted by USMCmatt
                  Can you still register a stripped lower as a pistol if you move here with one? If so, when registering, what do you put for caliber? do you put multi? Our do you decide what caliber you?ll make it?.
                  Yes, a new resident of CA can still legally import pistol receivers into CA.

                  In order to not run afoul Federal NFA laws and CA SBR/SBS laws, the pistol receiver needed to be ATF 4473 as "handgun" or as "other".
                  ^If a receiver that was ATF 4473 as "long gun" is utilized to make a handgun, then the resulting firearm can be considered an illegal SBR/SBS.

                  In order to not run afoul CA unsafe handgun laws, the pistols receivers should be reported to CA DOJ BOF as "pistol, semi-auto, receiver/frame".

                  In the past, CA DOJ BOF held that...

                  If the pistol receiver is simply reported as "pistol, receiver/frame"; then they must be made into a CA legal pistol that is compliant with CA unsafe handgun laws.
                  ^If semi-auto; then it must have a CLI, MDM, and pass CA DOJ safety testing. (the Micro Stamping Array is currently stayed by the Courts, otherwise it would be required)
                  ~Basically, the pistol receiver is limited to being made into a dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistol or into a dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistol.

                  If the pistol receiver is reported as "pistol, semi-auto, receiver/frame"; then it can be made into a CA legal semi-auto pistol.
                  ^Must be made to be compliant with CA assault weapons laws and CA generally prohibited weapons laws.
                  ~This is not a new semi-auto pistol being made in CA, but a previous semi-auto pistol that is being reassembled in CA. Hence, it is exempt from CA unsafe handgun laws.

                  In addition, CA DOJ BOF may request pictures of the pistol receivers when they start processing your New Resident Report of Firearm Ownership.
                  ^They do this to check if it is illegal (either make/model banned or configured in an illegal manner).
                  ~Currently, there is no legal requirement for a new resident to provide pictures of the firearms they import into CA.
                  Last edited by Quiet; 08-01-2023, 4:52 PM.
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                  • #10
                    USMCmatt
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 803

                    Awesome. Thank you. Multi-cal registration it is.
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                    • #11
                      ar15robert
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 2444

                      Originally posted by Quiet
                      Yes, a new resident of CA can still legally import pistol receivers into CA.

                      In order to not run afoul Federal NFA laws and CA SBR/SBS laws, the pistol receiver needed to be ATF 4473 as "handgun" or as "other".
                      ^If a receiver that was ATF 4473 as "long gun" is utilized to make a handgun, then the resulting firearm can be considered an illegal SBR/SBS.

                      In order to not run afoul CA unsafe handgun laws, the pistols receivers should be reported to CA DOJ BOF as "pistol, semi-auto, receiver/frame".

                      In the past, CA DOJ BOF held that...

                      If the pistol receiver is simply reported as "pistol, receiver/frame"; then they must be made into a CA legal pistol that is compliant with CA unsafe handgun laws.
                      ^If semi-auto; then it must have a CLI, MDM, and pass CA DOJ safety testing. (the Micro Stamping Array is currently stayed by the Courts, otherwise it would be required)
                      ~Basically, the pistol receiver is limited to being made into a dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistol or into a dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistol.

                      If the pistol receiver is reported as "pistol, semi-auto, receiver/frame"; then it can be made into a CA legal semi-auto pistol.
                      ^Must be made to be compliant with CA assault weapons laws and CA generally prohibited weapons laws.
                      ~This is not a new semi-auto pistol being made in CA, but a previous semi-auto pistol that is being reassembled in CA. Hence, it is exempt from CA unsafe handgun laws.

                      In addition, CA DOJ BOF may request pictures of the pistol receivers when they start processing your New Resident Report of Firearm Ownership.
                      ^They do this to check if it is illegal (either make/model banned or configured in an illegal manner).
                      ~Currently, there is no legal requirement for a new resident to provide pictures of the firearms they import into CA.
                      Trying to understand if I were to move back to ca my ar pistols cannot be imported as semi autos? But my other off rosters are ok?

                      I thought it was just comply with the mag lock and under 10 mags I?m fine. Like said maybe I misread your post wrong too.

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                      • #12
                        Jimi Jah
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 18399

                        AR pistols are a legal trap here. In the end it depends on the DA and the jury.

                        Those are not good odds here.

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