Rimfire Rifle and Centerfire Handgun 1 in 30 Purchase Clarification

[offrdmania]

So, I have already purchased 2 rim fire bolt action rifles this month and now I want to buy a center fire semi auto handgun. The rim fire purchases shouldn't effect the center fire handgun purchase this month, correct?

[SkyHawk]

correct

[EWastigmatism]

Shotguns and rim fire are exempt.

[ronlglock]

Shotguns and rim fire are exempt.

Shotguns, non-semi center fire, and rim fire all are exempt.

[Quiet]

Currently...
The 1 in 30 day wait only applies to handguns and semi-auto centerfire rifles. [PC 27535(a)]


Starting 01-01-2024...
The 1 in 30 day wait will apply to all firearms.



Penal Code 27535
(a) A person shall not make an application to purchase more than one handgun or semiautomatic centerfire rifle within any 30-day period. This subdivision does not authorize a person to make an application to purchase both a handgun and semiautomatic centerfire rifle within the same 30-day period.
(b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following:
(1) Any law enforcement agency.
(2) Any agency duly authorized to perform law enforcement duties.
(3) Any state or local correctional facility.
(4) Any private security company licensed to do business in California.
(5) Any person who is properly identified as a full-time paid peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, and who is authorized to, and does carry a firearm during the course and scope of employment as a peace officer.
(6) Any motion picture, television, or video production company or entertainment or theatrical company whose production by its nature involves the use of a firearm.
(7) Any person who may, pursuant to Article 2 (commencing with Section 27600), Article 3 (commencing with Section 27650), or Article 4 (commencing with Section 27700), claim an exemption from the waiting period set forth in Section 27540.
(8) Any transaction conducted through a licensed firearms dealer pursuant to Chapter 5 (commencing with Section 28050).
(9) Any person who is licensed as a collector pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto, and has a current certificate of eligibility issued by the Department of Justice pursuant to Article 1 (commencing with Section 26700) of Chapter 2.
(10) The exchange of a handgun or semiautomatic centerfire rifle where the dealer purchased that firearm from the person seeking the exchange within the 30-day period immediately preceding the date of exchange or replacement.
(11) The replacement of a handgun or semiautomatic centerfire rifle when the person’s firearm was lost or stolen, and the person reported that firearm lost or stolen pursuant to Section 25250 prior to the completion of the application to purchase the replacement.
(12) The return of any handgun or semiautomatic centerfire rifle to its owner.
(13) A community college that is certified by the Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training to present the law enforcement academy basic course or other commission-certified law enforcement training.
(c) This section shall remain in effect until January 1, 2024, and as of that date is repealed.

Penal Code 27535
(a) A person shall not make an application to purchase more than one firearm within any 30-day period. This subdivision does not authorize a person to make an application to purchase a combination of firearms, completed frames or receivers, or firearm precursor parts within the same 30-day period.
(b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following:
(1) Any law enforcement agency.
(2) Any agency duly authorized to perform law enforcement duties.
(3) Any state or local correctional facility.
(4) Any private security company licensed to do business in California.
(5) Any person who is properly identified as a full-time paid peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, and who is authorized to, and does carry a firearm during the course and scope of employment as a peace officer.
(6) Any motion picture, television, or video production company or entertainment or theatrical company whose production by its nature involves the use of a firearm.
(7) Any person who may, pursuant to Article 2 (commencing with Section 27600), Article 3 (commencing with Section 27650), or Article 4 (commencing with Section 27700), claim an exemption from the waiting period set forth in Section 27540.
(8) Any transaction conducted through a licensed firearms dealer pursuant to Chapter 5 (commencing with Section 28050).
(9) Any person who is licensed as a collector pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto, and has a current certificate of eligibility issued by the Department of Justice pursuant to Article 1 (commencing with Section 26700) of Chapter 2.
(10) The exchange of a firearm where the dealer purchased that firearm from the person seeking the exchange within the 30-day period immediately preceding the date of exchange or replacement.
(11) The replacement of a firearm when the person’s firearm was lost or stolen, and the person reported that firearm lost or stolen pursuant to Section 25250 prior to the completion of the application to purchase the replacement.
(12) The return of any firearm to its owner.
(13) A community college that is certified by the Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training to present the law enforcement academy basic course or other commission-certified law enforcement training.
(c) This section shall become operative on January 1, 2024.

[Rich1911]

1 in 30 question

Hi. Can I purchase a lower off someone via ppt, and then buy a second lower brand new from a FFL within the same 30 days? Or must I wait to buy the second?

[nearsightednate]

Does this apply to PPT transactions as well? Or strictly dealer transactions?

[Quiet]

Hi. Can I purchase a lower off someone via ppt, and then buy a second lower brand new from a FFL within the same 30 days? Or must I wait to buy the second?

Does this apply to PPT transactions as well? Or strictly dealer transactions?

PPT are exempt from the 1 in 30 day wait. [PC 27535(b)(8)]


A PPT is a face-to-face transfer between CA residents facilitated by a CA FFL dealer.
~IF one of the parties involved is a non-resident of CA, then the transfer is not a PPT and considered a type of dealer transfer.
~IF the firearm is shipped, then the transfer is not a PPT and considered a type of dealer transfer.

[nearsightednate]

Awesome! Thank you!

[Silence Dogood]

Has anyone challenged/ is anyone presently challenging this law?

It does not seem to pass the THT standard.