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  • davisdesigns
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2016
    • 9

    Straight pull bolt action, serialization/registration requirements

    If someone were to build a straight pull bolt action rifle around 2016 using AR15 style aftermarket parts and 80% lower, even machining the upper and BCG so as to make a full-featured straight pull bolt action rifle with an incomplete gas impingement system i.e. no gas tube.

    Does the ever-changing California laws that seemed to require a team of attorneys to decipher a written in a dead and or confusing language opposed to plain English, now require serialization/registration? of said rifle. And would said rifle be able to be sold through an FFL?
    Last edited by davisdesigns; 02-16-2022, 11:58 AM.
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    Bullets&Whitewalls
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 2360

    The 80% build process is still the same and will require serial and registration.
    As far a selling goes I believe the rules still are you cannot sell a self made firearm. I know though that prior to the newest laws people were successful in selling them.


    I re read your post. You missed the boat on registration and technically have an illegal build. And no you can’t sell it.
    Last edited by Bullets&Whitewalls; 02-16-2022, 2:35 PM.

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    • #3
      Quiet
      retired Goon
      • Mar 2007
      • 30241

      Originally posted by davisdesigns
      If someone were to build a straight pull bolt action rifle around 2016 using AR15 style aftermarket parts and 80% lower, even machining the upper and BCG so as to make a full-featured straight pull bolt action rifle with an incomplete gas impingement system i.e. no gas tube.

      Does the ever-changing California laws that seemed to require a team of attorneys to decipher a written in a dead and or confusing language opposed to plain English, now require serialization/registration? of said rifle. And would said rifle be able to be sold through an FFL?
      Since it was enacted, CA self-made firearm laws applies to all self-made ("80%") firearms.

      Therefore...

      A person who self-made a bolt-action rifle in 2016, was able to mark it with their info per BATFE specifications and then voluntarily register it with CA DOJ before 07-01-2018. [PC 29181(c)]

      A person who self-made a bolt-action rifle in 2016 and did not voluntarily register it with CA DOJ before 07-01-2018, was required to submit a USNA to CA DOJ and mark the self-made firearm with the CA DOJ approved info before 01-01-2019. [PC 29180(c)]

      Starting 01-01-2019, a person who self-made a bolt-action rifle in 2016 and did nothing about it, which means it's not registered with CA DOJ, is in possession of an illegal self-made firearm that is subject to confiscation and destruction. [PC 29180(d)(3)]

      Starting 01-01-2019, it is illegal to transfer a non-exempt self-made firearm in CA. [PC 29180(d)(1)]
      ^Only exemption to this is the transfer (surrender) to law enforcement for destruction. [PC 29180(d)(2),(4)]
      Last edited by Quiet; 02-16-2022, 5:09 PM.
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      • #4
        davisdesigns
        Junior Member
        • Jul 2016
        • 9

        Thank you for the detailed info I guess someone need to move out of state or go in to the parts business or hope civil-war beaks out soon.. LGB...

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        • #5
          lastinline
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2014
          • 2364

          Originally posted by Quiet

          Starting 01-01-2019, a person who self-made a bolt-action rifle in 2016 and did nothing about it, which means it's not registered with CA DOJ, is in possession of an illegal self-made firearm that is subject to confiscation and destruction. [PC 29180(d)(3)]
          Does the mere possession of above said rifle carry a criminal penalty, if not used in the commission of some other crime? And, would the same apply to all self-made rifles built prior to 2016 as well?

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          • #6
            Quiet
            retired Goon
            • Mar 2007
            • 30241

            Originally posted by lastinline
            Does the mere possession of above said rifle carry a criminal penalty, if not used in the commission of some other crime? And, would the same apply to all self-made rifles built prior to 2016 as well?
            Confiscated as evidence of violating CA self-made firearm laws.
            ^Currently, a misdemeanor. But, there is currently a bill (AB1869) in the CA legislature to change it to a felony and also makes possessing it/advertising it for sale/transferring it a felony.

            Applies to all non-exempt self-made firearms.

            Exempt self-made firearms:
            1. Firearms that are made by a 07-FFL and marked with their info.
            2. Long guns that were made before 12-16-1968.
            3. Firearms that were marked by the maker per BATFE specifications and voluntarily registered with CA DOJ before 07-01-2018.
            4. BATFE approved Title 2 firearms.
            5. Antique firearms and C&R firearms.
            Last edited by Quiet; 02-17-2022, 3:54 PM.
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