PPT FAQ - Sales limit etc.

[williamsld8]

So I hope I'm understanding this, but I want to make sure I'm completely clear, because I've been reading different CA codes for a couple hours trying to figure out the answer.

PPT regulations apply to PPT transfers, where a buyer and seller meet at one FFL to make the transaction. Got it.

PPT Seller is limited to 5 transactions per year. Got it.

If there is shipping between FFLs, like shipping from my FFL to the buyers FFL, whether the buyer is in CA or not, whether the FFLs are 2 miles apart or 2,000 miles apart, it's no longer a PPT transfer. Is that right?

If that IS the case, then the restriction of 5 PPT sales per year no longer applies to the seller once more than one FFL is involved. Is that also right?

Trying to figure out how to sell/trade a rifle I have but I've already made 5 PPT sales transactions in CA this year.

[Librarian]

So I hope I'm understanding this, but I want to make sure I'm completely clear, because I've been reading different CA codes for a couple hours trying to figure out the answer.

PPT regulations apply to PPT transfers, where a buyer and seller meet at one FFL to make the transaction. Got it.

PPT Seller is limited to 5 transactions per year. Got it.

If there is shipping between FFLs, like shipping from my FFL to the buyers FFL, whether the buyer is in CA or not, whether the FFLs are 2 miles apart or 2,000 miles apart, it's no longer a PPT transfer. Is that right?

If that IS the case, then the restriction of 5 PPT sales per year no longer applies to the seller once more than one FFL is involved. Is that also right?

Trying to figure out how to sell/trade a rifle I have but I've already made 5 PPT sales transactions in CA this year.

Shipping the gun makes the transaction not a PPT, as you say.

But the restriction on number of sales is not limited to the special conditions of PC 28050 - the restriction applies to all private sellers/sales via PC 16730, quoted in the first post.

I would therefore suggest that, if you have had 5 transactions in 2020, it would be wise to defer any more sales until 2021.

[williamsld8]

I was hoping I had found the light at the end of the tunnel, but I guess that tunnel is still 2.5 months long. Thank you for the info, Librarian. You're guidance is priceless.

[XxWoodsHunterxX]

Also about ppt. Worksheets can be used in place of buyer and seller being present at same time correct? If seller drops gun off and fills out worksheet and copy of ID and then buyer arrives to complete background.


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[nilesRider]

Thank you, Librarian.

I have never sold a gun, just started to sell some. Can I sell my next 4 guns to 4 buyers in a month using PPT?

Thanks

[Garv]

I have never sold a gun, just started to sell some. Can I sell my next 4 guns to 4 buyers in a month using PPT?

Thanks

Yes, just keep in mind that the legal limit is five PPT per year

[edgerly779]

5 ppt transactions up yo 50 firearms total to be accurate

[nilesRider]

Thanks, Garv & edgerly779
I need that.

[Tankhatch]

N/A

[Quiet]

Question, If the intrafamilial transfer is a handgun, for CYA purposes, CFARS it to show ownership ?

Since 01-01-1993, CA laws required handguns that are transferred between immediate family members to be reported to CA DOJ BOF within 30 days of the transfer.

Starting 01-01-2014, CA laws requires all firearms that are transferred between immediate family members to be reported to CA DOJ BOF within 30 days of the transfer.

Failure to report is a misdemeanor and it is considered a continuing offense (statue of limitations starts when they discovered it wasn't reported, not when the transfer occurs or when the reporting window ends.). That said, CA DOJ BOF is currently allowing reporting after the 30 day window without any penalty.

This reporting requirement can be done by:

Option A.
Mailing in a completed Report of Operation of Law or Intra-Familial Firearm Transaction to CA DOJ BOF.

Option B.
Going online to CFARS, accessing CRIS, and submitting a Report of Intra-Familial Firearm Transaction online.

[Koval33]

[bugsy714]

If you have a car registered in your name with the correct address that works just show the car registration


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[TTT]

A person I am purchasing a pistol from told me he talked to an FFL that said they would run a background check on the seller during the PPT process- is that correct?

[Librarian]

A person I am purchasing a pistol from told me he talked to an FFL that said they would run a background check on the seller during the PPT process- is that correct?

No.

Not unless the buyer fails the check, and the FFL needs to return the gun to the seller.

[TTT]

That's what I thought. Thanks!