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  • Christian556
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 85

    Question about a RAW application that didn't process

    During the recent "bullet button AW" registration I attempted to register two rifles using the CFARS system. I received an email requesting that I correct the model number on one of the rifles from "MR762 A1" to " MR762A1" (they didn't like the space lol). I logged on and made the correction.

    Many months later they sent me a list of my RAWs which included rifles from the 1999 registration but the MR762A1 wasn't on the list... I logged onto CFARS and there are no active applications and I'm not seeing a way to look up past transactions.

    The rifle is featureless and I'm wondering if it's safe to sell it or if I should attempt to contact the DOJ for confirmation that it wasn't registered?

    Any advice is appreciated.

    Thanks!
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    lordmorgul
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Jul 2016
    • 1203

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      BAJ475
      Calguns Addict
      • Jul 2014
      • 5200

      Originally posted by Christian556
      During the recent "bullet button AW" registration I attempted to register two rifles using the CFARS system. I received an email requesting that I correct the model number on one of the rifles from "MR762 A1" to " MR762A1" (they didn't like the space lol). I logged on and made the correction.

      Many months later they sent me a list of my RAWs which included rifles from the 1999 registration but the MR762A1 wasn't on the list... I logged onto CFARS and there are no active applications and I'm not seeing a way to look up past transactions.

      The rifle is featureless and I'm wondering if it's safe to sell it or if I should attempt to contact the DOJ for confirmation that it wasn't registered?

      Any advice is appreciated.

      Thanks!
      If the weapon was featureless, why did you attempt to register it?

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        BAJ475
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2014
        • 5200

        What is your authority for the assertion that a featureless weapon, previously registered as a BBAW, is still a BBAW?

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          lordmorgul
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          • Jul 2016
          • 1203

          Originally posted by BAJ475
          What is your authority for the assertion that a featureless weapon, previously registered as a BBAW, is still a BBAW?
          [quote=DOJ RAW FAQ]

          If the characteristics that make my firearm a category 3 assault weapon are removed, can I cancel the registration? Can I sell it as regular (non-assault weapon) firearm?

          Yes. If the defining characteristics establishing a firearm as a category 3 assault weapon are removed, it is no longer an assault weapon and the registration may be canceled. However, once the registration is canceled, you can never replace the characteristic(s) that make it an assault weapon, or you will be in possession of an illegal weapon. To cancel an assault weapon registration, contact DOJ at (916) 227-2153. Once the registration has been canceled, the firearm can be sold or transferred like any other firearm (non-assault weapon).[\quote]

          Assault Weapons and .50 BMG Quick Links to Topics General FAQs “Other” Assault Weapons Military Assault Weapons Bullet Button Assault Weapons General FAQs What is considered an assault weapon under California law? What are AK and AR-15 series weapons? What is considered a .50 BMG rifle under California law? Can assault weapons and .50 BMG rifles still be registered? I already paid the Dealer's Record of Sale (DROS) fee and went through a DOJ record check when I purchased the firearm. Does that satisfy the registration requirement?



          Andrew - Lancaster, CA
          NRA Life Member, CRPA member, Calguns.net contributor, CGF / SAF / FPC / CCRKBA / GOA / NAGR / NRA-ILA contributor, USCCA member - Support your defenders!

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          • #6
            lordmorgul
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            • Jul 2016
            • 1203

            Originally posted by BAJ475
            If the weapon was featureless, why did you attempt to register it?

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            • #7
              Christian556
              Junior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 85

              Originally posted by BAJ475
              If the weapon was featureless, why did you attempt to register it?
              Weapon was not featureless when the application was filed

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                Christian556
                Junior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 85

                Originally posted by lordmorgul
                He said “is” not “was”, though if it was at the time that would explain lack of a letter, it would have resulted in an app rejection notice.

                It is *maybe* telling that the application doesn’t show up in CFARS because mine and I assume everyone else’s complete registrations still show up as pending, even today.

                OP look under CRIS transaction history, not under CFARS pending cart. CFARS home -> CRIS home -> CRIS transaction history on right side menu.


                Andrew - Lancaster, CA
                NRA Life Member, CRPA member, Calguns.net contributor, CGF / SAF / FPC / CCRKBA / GOA / NAGR / NRA-ILA contributor, USCCA member - Support your defenders!
                Thank you, I did not explore CRIS, only CFARS. Both rifles are in fact listed in my CRIS transaction history, and the model designation on the HK is in the format they requested. As you correctly pointed out, the "status" column for both of these rifles indicates "In Progress".

                Sounds like I should call DOJ to cancel the registration which should reveal the actual status of the weapon. And when I make this inquiry I'll make a point of disclosing that the weapon was made featureless before the registration deadline so I'm not inviting trouble. Would that be the best course of action in your opinion, or is there another way to inquire about the status?
                Last edited by Christian556; 05-24-2020, 6:23 AM.

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                • #9
                  lordmorgul
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 1203

                  Last edited by lordmorgul; 05-24-2020, 8:55 AM.

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