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  • jhansman
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2017
    • 32

    Procedural question

    I wasn't quite sure where to post this, so if it belongs elsewhere, my apologies:

    I ordered a bolt rifle last week which arrived at my FFL yesterday. When we opened the box, the rifle (ostensibly "new") was sitting in the styrofoam, the rifle in it's cutout, the bolt in its. Neither were wrapped; the tang on the rifle was scratched and the bolt had an unusual coloring to it along the shaft portion (sorry, no pics; another error on my part). The FFL asked me did I want to go ahead with the paperwork, which I did, thinking these irregularities were simply cosmetic. Frankly, I was excited to receive the rifle and was less that rational in the moment; I inserted the bolt, operated it several times and the rifle seemed to function as it should. So, I went ahead with the 4473 and fingerprint; the FFL came back after a few and said "You're good to go; come back when I give you a call (the 10-day wait is apparently becoming much longer) and you can pick it up. So, my question is (you knew there was one here somewhere, eh?), have I "taken possession" of this rifle, or does that happen when I pick it up? I ask because the outfit I bought it from asked my just that, and I wasn't sure how to answer. I expect he will now say it's too late to return should I choose to. Clearly, someone was in the box before we were, and the vendor I bought it from claims he did not open it box before shipping it to my FFL. Any info you all can provide would be much appreciated. I have a feeling I'm stuck with the rifle, like it or not, but I wanted to verify this before making a next move. Many thanks.
  • #2
    SkyHawk
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Sep 2012
    • 23530

    You have not taken possession. Have the FFL dealer cancel the DROS.
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    • #3
      Jeepergeo
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 3507

      The vendor did not open the box to confirm contents before shipping the gun to your FFL? That sounds like a really, really bad business practice. I would not buy again from that vendor again.

      Buying from the good old LGS makes a lot of sense, and the same with ordering through them. Seeing the product before you start the DROS eliminates so many problems. IMHO, YMMV.
      Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association
      Life Member, California Rifle and Pistol Association

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      • #4
        jhansman
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2017
        • 32

        Now the FFL is telling me he removed the bolt from it's wrapper before I arrived, and that to return the rifle would create, for him, a major ^%*@storm, so I'm just going to pick the rifle up when it finally is out of jail, take pics to send to the vendor, and see what happens next. This is the second time this has happened (first time with Bud's, which they made good on, to their credit), and tells me that ordering firearms through the mails is, at best, a chancy business. None of this would have happened had I been able to work through my local FFL, who is now closed until further notice. I can only hope the rifle is not defective; then I will be dealing with the manuf. Sigh...

        Thanks for the replies.

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        • #5
          kcheung2
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 4387

          You were given a chance to inspect it, and your FFL asked you if you wanted to proceed. So if you chose to proceed, that’s on you.
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          • #6
            SVT-40
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2008
            • 12907

            What make and model of rifle? What makes you think anything is wrong?
            Poke'm with a stick!


            Originally posted by fiddletown
            What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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