CA "Ghost Gun" Regs on PF940C Glock Builds

[carider]

Sorry if this has been asked already, but I have done several searches and information on the regulations on Glock builds seem to be buried under all this information on ghost gun assault weapons.

1. Can a PF940C even be serialized in CA? Or it's considered a "unsafe handgun" because of it not being on the roster?

2. If you built a Poly80 Glock handgun from a 80% lower prior to 2018, and you missed registration, how do you get a serial number? Is it legal to request one? Too late?

3. Is it still worth it?

[Uncivil Engineer]

I'll leave 2 and 3 for others. Number 1 the roster, it shouldn't apply. The roster is for guns to be sold by an FFL. Just as it doesn't apply for PPT it shouldn't apply for home builds.

[carider]

Uspatriotarmy says that to their knowledge, as they are not a a lawyer, that the pf940c builds are not yet required to have serial numbers, but have a spot to put one when that comes along. Is that how you guys interpret it?

[Uncivil Engineer]

Uspatriotarmy says that to their knowledge, as they are not a a lawyer, that the pf940c builds are not yet required to have serial numbers, but have a spot to put one when that comes along. Is that how you guys interpret it?

This is where you get into danger. 'not yet' but when was that posted? This is why you want to be careful and look exact dates.

[carider]

This is where you get into danger. 'not yet' but when was that posted? This is why you want to be careful and look exact dates.

"Not yet" today on the phone

[johnk518]

Uspatriotarmy says that to their knowledge, as they are not a a lawyer, that the pf940c builds are not yet required to have serial numbers, but have a spot to put one when that comes along. Is that how you guys interpret it?

[Uncivil Engineer]

All 80s are getting shipped to an FFL? Since when? If you suggesting only glock 80s , what makes them different than an AR lower 80?

[johnk518]

[Uncivil Engineer]

Here is a link

https://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/frame-parts/frames/80-pf940cv1-frame-polymer-robin-egg-blue-g19-23-sku100025959-97837-209962.aspx?rrec=true

You will notice there isn't a "restriction FFL" in the description as there is with all other completed guns.

So no change.

[olddirtygerm]

The PF940C's don't have 3.7 oz of stainless steel embedded in them which required.

Penal Code 29180
(b) Commencing July 1, 2018, prior to manufacturing or assembling a firearm, a person manufacturing or assembling the firearm shall do all of the following:
(2)(B) If the firearm is manufactured or assembled from polymer plastic, 3.7 ounces of material type 17-4 PH stainless steel shall be embedded within the plastic upon fabrication or construction with the unique serial number engraved or otherwise permanently affixed in a manner that meets or exceeds the requirements imposed on licensed importers and licensed manufacturers of firearms pursuant to subsection (i) of Section 923 of Title 18 of the United States Code and regulations issued pursuant thereto.

[johnk518]

Well being in Cali, we need to register EVERYTHING. So I guess I just assume the worse.


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[carider]

If you don't have a serial number yet, better not to go to the range with one?

[johnk518]

If you don't have a serial number yet, better not to go to the range with one?

[johnk518]

[sbo80]

The roster is for guns to be sold by an FFL. Just as it doesn't apply for PPT it shouldn't apply for home builds.

Nope. It is illegal to manufacture an off-roster pistol in CA. See PC 32000. "any person who manufactures...shall be punished". You cannot simply buy a glock80 and build it. PPT are exempt from being on the roster in PC32110, but they aren't made here. There's no part of the exemptions for home builds. The way folks have been not violating PC32000, is by building a pistol to meet the other exemption given in PC32100(b). That is to build it single shot breaktop/bolt action with a 6" barrel. Hence the products out there like the Inlander Arms easy bolt. There's several other mega-threads arguing whether you can later convert such a pistol to a standard semi-auto, and whether that's a continuation of "manufacturing" and therefore illegal under 32000, or just a modification and therefore legal. The PC isn't as clear on that point.

You all know the Penal Code is public and you can google it. Of course there's nuance but most of the code is actually very easy to read. There's whole sections listed "exemptions to xx" and you can just read them instead of saying things like "it should". It either does or does not.