Legal Issues Loaning a Hunting Shotgun to a Friend

[Egerland]

I am considering loaning a side by side shotgun to a friend during a hunting trip. We would be hunting together, or at least nearby.

Are there any legal implications to consider?

[Egerland]

Legal Issues Loaning a Hunting Shotgun to a Friend

I am considering loaning a side by side shotgun to a friend during a hunting trip. We would be hunting together, or at least near to each other.

What are the legal implications I should consider?

[SquidBilly]

Joe Biden's shotgun? No problem.

[plinkr]

Sounds more like Dick Cheney's...

Joe Biden's shotgun? No problem.

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[edgerly779]

As long as he has hunting license good to go. Does not need fsc for long gun.

[Ben R]

IMHO, anybody who owns guns should have insurance that covers them in the event someone is injured by them. It isn't expensive.

[lewdogg21]

I am considering loaning a side by side shotgun to a friend during a hunting trip. We would be hunting together, or at least near to each other.

What are the legal implications I should consider?

I'm sure somebody will cite the penal code/law but I thought it was a no no now. Regardless... if I were in your situation I wouldn't worry provided it's as you described.

[Egerland]

I'm sure somebody will cite the penal code/law but I thought it was a no no now. Regardless... if I were in your situation I wouldn't worry provided it's as you described.

Thanks!

[Doggboy]

I'm sure somebody will cite the penal code/law but I thought it was a no no now. Regardless... if I were in your situation I wouldn't worry provided it's as you described.

Yep, you can lend your weapon to some one with you, but you can not give it to them so they can go without you. You should be fine, but I could see an over zealous ranger trying to make the case that you and your friend are too far apart, and you therefore violated the law.

[edgerly779]

Never had a warden or ranger asked who owned what when doing a license check while hunting. Not once in almost 50 years.

[RandyD]

Here is a link to the wiki.calgunsfoundation page on loaning a firearm.

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php?title=Lend_or_Loan_a_Firearm

[edgerly779]

^^^ Nailed it. The foil hat guys can catch their breath now. (LOL)

[-hanko]

Yep, you can lend your weapon to some one with you, but you can not give it to them so they can go without you. You should be fine, but I could see an over zealous ranger trying to make the case that you and your friend are too far apart, and you therefore violated the law.

The paranoia is strong here.

[caliguy93]

Here is a link to the wiki.calgunsfoundation page on loaning a firearm.

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...Loan_a_Firearm

That wiki page is outdated.. law changed as of 2017

27545.
Where neither party to the transaction holds a dealer’s license issued pursuant to Sections 26700 to 26915, inclusive, the parties to the transaction shall complete the sale, loan, or transfer of that firearm through a licensed firearms dealer pursuant to Chapter 5 (commencing with Section 28050).

27880. Section 27545 does not apply to the loan of a firearm if all of the following requirements are satisfied:
(a) The loan is to a spouse, registered domestic partner, or any of the following relations, whether by consanguinity, adoption, or steprelation:
(1) Parent.
(2) Child.
(3) Sibling.
(4) Grandparent.
(5) Grandchild.
(b) The loan is infrequent, as defined in Section 16730.
(c) The loan is for any lawful purpose.
(d) The loan does not exceed 30 days in duration.
(e) Until January 1, 2015, if the firearm is a handgun, the individual being loaned the firearm shall have a valid handgun safety certificate. Commencing January 1, 2015, for any firearm, the individual being loaned the firearm shall have a valid firearm safety certificate, except that in the case of a handgun, an unexpired handgun safety certificate may be used.
(f) If the firearm being loaned is a handgun, the handgun is registered to the person making the loan pursuant to Section 11106.

27885.
Section 27545 does not apply to the loan of a firearm if all of the following conditions exist:
(a) The person loaning the firearm is at all times within the presence of the person being loaned the firearm.
(b) The loan is for a lawful purpose.
(c) The loan does not exceed three days in duration.
(d) The individual receiving the firearm is not prohibited by state or federal law from possessing, receiving, owning, or purchasing a firearm.
(e) The person loaning the firearm is 18 years of age or older.
(f) The person being loaned the firearm is 18 years of age or older.

[code_blue]

Caliguy is correct.

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1283315

The biggest issue is how you interpret "at all times":

Penal Code 27885
Section 27545 does not apply to the loan of a firearm if all of the following conditions exist:
(a) The person loaning the firearm is at all times within the presence of the person being loaned the firearm.


One way, you're fine and the other your need to essentially perform a PPT to your friend via an FFL.