Can I sell my PSL Dragunov?

[Marinerman]

I have a very nice PSL Dragunov that I want to sell. It has the muzzle brake; kydex thumb stop and bullet button. I'm not sure if this rifle should have been registered by June 2018 as an assault weapon. It wasn't. Can the PSL be sold without confiscation of my rifle? Thank you.

[Pred]

Tho I’m the one plannin on buying your psl. If the rifle has been modified to be Featureless then your good to sell. This had to be done before June. It’s just like an AR.

[Xerxes]

Check with the dealer you do the transfer with.

In the end what he decides will supersede everything else.

The PSL is not on the named Make/Model list so its about the features.
If you attempted to register this then you should not sell this until the registration is canceled by request or de-registered per the requirements of the DOJ.

The bullet button or without does not make a difference. Some dealers may think the bullet button is banned instead of just being reclassified as detachable magazine.

No thumbhole stock so you got that covered, right?

The commblocs have always principled on muzzle breaks but the PSL can be confused for a flash hider and probably does both so the FFL may struggle with that, if you wear a belt and suspender (or are a two condom is better than one guy) then just replace it with a thread protector. The BATFE has classified it similar to Commbloc designation but the DOJ has been known to deviate from BATFE interpretations. For reference NATO has always gone with flash suppressors principle. For legal interpretation it is what the manufacture calls it, but if more holes on top or a baffle its a break. If holes all around equally its a flash hider, use to guide you when you do not have the paper to say which is it.

My two local dealers are selling "featureless" AK pattern rifles as the fancy cool mag lock design on the AR's does not work on the AK patterns and have since Jan 1 2017 without getting a desist order from the DOJ.

It had to be featureless prior to July 1 as mentioned all ready.

Alternative is to disassemble as much as you can so the stock is removed and it can not fire and only the barreled receiver is DROS'd -parts to the buyer outside the shop (though maybe the PSL is over 30" with stock removed, but just to be safe better to disassemble if you go this route). Again check with the dealer as some will not transfer a disassembled rifled they know is fully assembled before and after the transfer.

[Dirk Tungsten]

The commblocs have always principled on muzzle breaks but the PSL can be confused for a flash hider and probably does both so the FFL may struggle with that, if you wear a belt and suspender (or are a two condom is better than one guy) then just replace it with a thread protector. The BATFE has classified it similar to Commbloc designation but the DOJ has been known to deviate from BATFE interpretations. For reference NATO has always gone with flash suppressors principle. For legal interpretation it is what the manufacture calls it, but if more holes on top or a baffle its a break. If holes all around equally its a flash hider, use to guide you when you do not have the paper to say which is it.

Actually, double bagging it makes condom breakage more likely (in addition to probably being fairly unpleasant), so in this case more is actually not better. Consider this an off-topic PSA. The more you know!

[Marinerman]

Check with the dealer you do the transfer with.

In the end what he decides will supersede everything else.

The PSL is not on the named Make/Model list so its about the features.
If you attempted to register this then you should not sell this until the registration is canceled by request or de-registered per the requirements of the DOJ.

The bullet button or without does not make a difference. Some dealers may think the bullet button is banned instead of just being reclassified as detachable magazine.

No thumbhole stock so you got that covered, right?

The commblocs have always principled on muzzle breaks but the PSL can be confused for a flash hider and probably does both so the FFL may struggle with that, if you wear a belt and suspender (or are a two condom is better than one guy) then just replace it with a thread protector. The BATFE has classified it similar to Commbloc designation but the DOJ has been known to deviate from BATFE interpretations. For reference NATO has always gone with flash suppressors principle. For legal interpretation it is what the manufacture calls it, but if more holes on top or a baffle its a break. If holes all around equally its a flash hider, use to guide you when you do not have the paper to say which is it.

My two local dealers are selling "featureless" AK pattern rifles as the fancy cool mag lock design on the AR's does not work on the AK patterns and have since Jan 1 2017 without getting a desist order from the DOJ.

It had to be featureless prior to July 1 as mentioned all ready.

Alternative is to disassemble as much as you can so the stock is removed and it can not fire and only the barreled receiver is DROS'd -parts to the buyer outside the shop (though maybe the PSL is over 30" with stock removed, but just to be safe better to disassemble if you go this route). Again check with the dealer as some will not transfer a disassembled rifled they know is fully assembled before and after the transfer.

Very informative. Thank you very much for taking the time to answer my thread.

[Marinerman]

I just talked to a Mgr at Ammo Bros. He said, I could sell it with the kydex paddle; muzzle brake; but I have to REMOVE the bullet button. Does that sound right?

[Moemoe1]

[Xerxes]

I just talked to a Mgr at Ammo Bros. He said, I could sell it with the kydex paddle; muzzle brake; but I have to REMOVE the bullet button. Does that sound right?

For California Law you do not have too.

But as I mentioned you need a cooperative FFL to do a transfer. He has his livelihood at risk so whatever he thinks will risk it will get you a NO.

If the FFL is convenient to you then just remove it. You have the type with 4 screws (Allen Head) and takes about 2 minutes with about 1:50 of those minutes looking for the allen wrench. Just remove it so he agrees to the transfer. No Biggie, if you do not have the wrenches you can buy them at Home Depot for $1.10 each (if you buy the individual instead of kit). The buyer likely would be willing to help with this if he really would like the rifle.

I have hear of FFL's not doing featureless bullet button transfers due to the way it is explained by the DOJ as simply
Bullet Button=VERBOTEN

[Marinerman]

For California Law you do not have too.

But as I mentioned you need a cooperative FFL to do a transfer. He has his livelihood at risk so whatever he thinks will risk it will get you a NO.

If the FFL is convenient to you then just remove it. You have the type with 4 screws (Allen Head) and takes about 2 minutes with about 1:50 of those minutes looking for the allen wrench. Just remove it so he agrees to the transfer. No Biggie, if you do not have the wrenches you can buy them at Home Depot for $1.10 each (if you buy the individual instead of kit). The buyer likely would be willing to help with this if he really would like the rifle.

I have hear of FFL's not doing featureless bullet button transfers due to the way it is explained by the DOJ as simply
Bullet Button=VERBOTEN

Good advice. I'll just do what Ammo Bros. wants, and remove the BB.Thanks again Xerxes!

[Discogodfather]

I have a very nice PSL Dragunov that I want to sell. It has the muzzle brake; kydex thumb stop and bullet button. I'm not sure if this rifle should have been registered by June 2018 as an assault weapon. It wasn't. Can the PSL be sold without confiscation of my rifle? Thank you.

As long as it's a muzzle brake the rifle looks featureless to me. You don't need the BB. Sell it as a featureless rifle. They are worth a lot of money if it's the original Cugir.

I ended up registering mine because it had the flash hider and I wanted to keep the pistol grip and the BB.

[Marinerman]

Okay, this is what happened. I contacted the manager of Ammo Bros in Ontario, and asked him what I needed to do to sell my rifle. He said: remove the bullet button; keep the kydex thumb paddle on; make sure you have a muzzle brake and not a flash suppressor. All of the above was done, and I sold the rifle pretty easily. Thanks for you input everyone.

[dchan521]

How much are you looking to sell? Would look very nice next to my 54r Vepr in SVD furniture.

[Marinerman]

How much are you looking to sell? Would look very nice next to my 54r Vepr in SVD furniture.

SOLD