Featureless AR pistol

[peterinsj]

[edgerly779]

OP complete fail. Fixed mag can have threaded barrel and handguard.

[peterinsj]

There are differences in the AW definitions for what is classified as an assault rifle vs pistol.

The law says a pistol can have a pistol grip, a rifle cannot.

The law says a pistol cannot have a threaded barrel, the law does not forbid threaded rifle barrels.

Rifles may have hanguards, pistols cannot



A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
(B) A second handgrip.
A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.

[customiiguy]

There are differences in the AW definitions for what is classified as an assault rifle vs pistol.

The law says a pistol can have a pistol grip, a rifle cannot.

The law says a pistol cannot have a threaded barrel, the law does not forbid threaded rifle barrels.

Rifles may have hanguards, pistols cannot



A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
(B) A second handgrip.
A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.

This makes it an aw. Need to maglock it to be compliant

[deephouse]

Featureless AR pistol

One of the defining AW characteristics that cannot be removed from the AR Pistol definition is the capacity to accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip.
Everything else (forward grip, shroud, threaded barrel, etc) is ultimately trivial. For this reason, you cannot have a "featureless pistol" - the detachable magazine is ALWAYS outside of the pistol grip.

Therefore, one of the few ways to keep it compliant would be to do a fixed mag of 10rds, OR single shot (which disqualifies it from being “semi automatic”).

So
-Fixed mag with ejection port loader
-Fixed mag with break top loading
-Or single shot.

[deephouse]

[sbo80]

You are misreading the text. And that is the old law, which has been changed. 30515 now says "A semiautomatic pistol that does not have a fixed magazine but has any of the following..". If the pistol is single shot (not semi-automatic) or it has a fixed magazine (maglock etc.), all the other "features" listed after that are irrelevant. A fixed mag or single shot pistol can still have threaded barrels, second handgrip, or barrel shroud.

[edgerly779]

^^^ Yes asked and answered many times.

[peterinsj]

Yes, that magazine outside the pistol grip pretty much makes a featureless pistol impossible. Looks like I’ll be building a 9mm featureless carbine after all.