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  • Beretta11
    Banned
    • Mar 2018
    • 33

    CCW Rules

    Can you carry more than one gun on you if you have a CCW or only one and if not, why not more than one?
  • #2
    BlackyHouston
    Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 304

    Originally posted by Beretta11
    Can you carry more than one gun on you if you have a CCW or only one and if not, why not more than one?
    You can carry those listed on your CCW only, one or all.

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    • #3
      Quiet
      retired Goon
      • Mar 2007
      • 30241

      Under CA laws...

      Every handgun you are authorized to carry must be listed (make, model, caliber, serial number) on your CA LTC permit. [PC 26175(i)]

      If you carry a handgun that does not exactly match what is listed, then your CA LTC permit is not valid for the purpose of carrying that handgun.

      There is no prohibitions or restrictions on if you can carry all the handguns listed on your CA LTC permit at the same time.
      ^Only requirement is that they need to be concealed.
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      "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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      • #4
        Dvrjon
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Nov 2012
        • 11286

        All of the above, with the caveat:

        CCW licenses are discretionary in this "may issue" state.

        Your IA can legally establish policies, conditions or restrictions which may limit the number of authorized guns which can be carried at any time.

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        • #5
          Chewy65
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2013
          • 5041

          I see you are new to Calguns. Just to be safe, everyone assumes that you are asking about carrying if you have a California CCW. California does not recognize those of other states. No reciprocity.

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          • #6
            warbird
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 2049

            Many out of state CCW's like Nevada and Arizona do not require your gun be listed on the permit but it would be nice if they ran the number and it did belong to you.

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            • #7
              hermosabeach
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2009
              • 19114

              Bump
              Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

              Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

              Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

              Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
              (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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              • #8
                Christopher761
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2014
                • 855

                Originally posted by Quiet
                Under CA laws...

                ^Only requirement is that they need to be concealed.
                Does not need to be concealed. (PC 26010 is exemption open carry for CCW licensee) Nor does it need to be loaded. (PC 26362 points back to PC 26010, and provides same exemption)

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                • #9
                  Dvrjon
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 11286

                  Originally posted by Christopher761
                  Does not need to be concealed. (PC 26010 is exemption open carry for CCW licensee) Nor does it need to be loaded. (PC 26362 points back to PC 26010, and provides same exemption)
                  Oh, my.

                  So, my Concealed allows me to carry a loaded firearm openly? [emphasis added]

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                  • #10
                    CSACANNONEER
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                    • Dec 2006
                    • 44093

                    Originally posted by Christopher761
                    Does not need to be concealed. (PC 26010 is exemption open carry for CCW licensee) Nor does it need to be loaded. (PC 26362 points back to PC 26010, and provides same exemption)
                    Really? I just read PC 26010 and didn't see anything about being able to legally LOC. Can you please elaborate. The way I read PC 26010, it only exempts LTC holders from PC 25850 which also says nothing about OC vs. CC. PC 25850 only covers the crime of carrying a loaded gun in public (which PC 26010 exempts LTC holders from) but, it doesn't say anything about OC or CC.
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                    • #11
                      Chewy65
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 5041

                      FWIW, this comes from a 2012 U.S. District Court; Pizzo v San Francisco:

                      It also does not apply to, among others, individuals with a license to carry a concealed weapon. . . .

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                      • #12
                        FeuerFrei
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 7455

                        LTC allows open carry in public???
                        How the hell did this NOT get discussed earlier????

                        Need clarity here.

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                        • #13
                          Quiet
                          retired Goon
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 30241

                          Originally posted by FeuerFrei
                          LTC allows open carry in public???
                          How the hell did this NOT get discussed earlier????

                          Need clarity here.
                          Under CA laws, there are two different types of CA License To Carry (LTC) permits. [PC 26150(b) & 26155(b)]
                          1. LTC conceal. [PC 26150(b)(1) & 26155(b)(1)]
                          2. LTC open. [PC 26150(b)(2) & 26155(b)(2)]

                          A LTC conceal can be amended (replaced with) for a LTC open. [PC 26215(a)(3)]

                          LTC conceal is valid throughout CA.
                          LTC open is only valid in the county it is issued in.
                          Last edited by Quiet; 05-11-2018, 7:57 AM.
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                          "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                          • #14
                            FeuerFrei
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 7455

                            Originally posted by Quiet
                            Under CA laws, there are two different types of CA License To Carry (LTC) permits. [PC 26150(b) & 26155(b)]
                            1. LTC conceal. [PC 26150(b)(1) & 26155(b)(1)]
                            2. LTC open. [PC 26150(b)(2) & 26155(b)(2)]

                            A LTC conceal can be amended (replaced with) for a LTC open. [PC 26215(a)(3)]

                            LTC conceal is valid throughout CA.
                            LTC open is only valid in the county it is issued in.
                            Thanx for the info Q [emoji106]

                            Sent using a long string and 2 Dixie cups

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                            • #15
                              Dvrjon
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 11286

                              To expand on the original comment and how Quiet's citations work with them:
                              Originally posted by Christopher761
                              Does not need to be concealed. (PC 26010 is exemption open carry for CCW licensee)
                              25850: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...0.&lawCode=PEN
                              25850. (a) A person is guilty of carrying a loaded firearm when the person carries a loaded firearm on the person or in a vehicle while in any public place or on any public street in an incorporated city or in any public place or on any public street in a prohibited area of unincorporated territory.
                              26010: http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...ctionNum=26010.
                              26010. Section 25850 does not apply to the carrying of any handgun by any person as authorized pursuant to Chapter 4 (commencing with Section 26150) of Division 5.
                              26150: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=26150.
                              26150. (a) When a person applies for a license to carry a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, the sheriff of a county may issue a license to that person upon proof of all of the following:
                              ~Snip~
                              (b) The sheriff may issue a license under subdivision (a) in either of the following formats:
                              (1) A license to carry concealed a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.
                              (2) Where the population of the county is less than 200,000 persons according to the most recent federal decennial census, a license to carry loaded and exposed in only that county a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.
                              The second form of license is not a license to carry concealed (CCW or LTC) which is being discussed here.
                              Originally posted by Christopher761
                              Nor does it need to be loaded. (PC 26362 points back to PC 26010, and provides same exemption)
                              No, 26362 doesn't point back to 26010:

                              26362: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=26362.
                              26362. Section 26350 does not apply to, or affect, the open carrying of an unloaded handgun by any person to the extent that person may openly carry a loaded handgun pursuant to Article 4 (commencing with Section 26000) of Chapter 3.
                              That means, to carry loaded and exposed, you need the second form of license which allows loaded, exposed carry within the county. It isn't authorized outside of that jurisdiction. That license doesn't permit concealed carry of any sort, and arguably, since the license obtained is to carry loaded and exposed, carrying unloaded isn't within the purview of the license. So, 26350 would apply:

                              26350: http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...ctionNum=26350
                              26350. (a)(1) A person is guilty of openly carrying an unloaded handgun when that person carries upon his or her person an exposed and unloaded handgun outside a vehicle while in or on any of the following:
                              Best.

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