Adjustable AR-15 Stock and the CA LAW?

[eXcision]

Hey guys, So I've been looking into this whole "Scary Features" thing that's going on and I decided that I would be going the locked magazine route for the 3 AR-15's I'm currently building (There's some really good ways around this and I don't want featureless).

Since I'm going this route, Then I can have an adjustable stock right? The reason I ask this is because there's been a couple of websites that just outright refuse to ship them to California... I found some websites that do ship them, But am I missing something? Are they illegal or are these websites just taking the safe side?

[Quiet]

Folding/telescoping shoulder stock are restricted on semi-auto centerfire rifles that do not have a fixed magazine. [PC 30515(a)(1)(C)]

Therefore...

They are CA legal on semi-auto centerfire rifles with a fixed 10 round magazine, manually operated (bolt-action, lever-action, pump-action, single-shot) rifles, and rimfire rifles.

[RickD427]

Hey guys, So I've been looking into this whole "Scary Features" thing that's going on and I decided that I would be going the locked magazine route for the 3 AR-15's I'm currently building (There's some really good ways around this and I don't want featureless).

Since I'm going this route, Then I can have an adjustable stock right? The reason I ask this is because there's been a couple of websites that just outright refuse to ship them to California... I found some websites that do ship them, But am I missing something? Are they illegal or are these websites just taking the safe side?

With a proper fixed magazine, you're just fine with an adjustable stock, or a collapsible stock.

Just make sure that your fixed magazine meets the requirements of PC 30315(b). A "Bullet Button" is no longer adequate. It's arguable whether the "Maglock" type devices will work. The law requires that "Disassembly" of the action is required in order to remove the magazine. If you accept the maker's argument that "opening" the action is the same as "disassembling" the action, then the Maglock works just fine.

A lot of vendors will decline to ship items to California because of their fear of legal action, confusion of the applicability of our laws, or because they don't want the hassle of dealing with California. That's their right. It's a business decision that they get to make. Just don't be accepting of their often-offered explanation that "it's illegal." But that don't change the bottom line, you're still not gonna get their stuff.

[eXcision]

With a proper fixed magazine, you're just fine with an adjustable stock, or a collapsible stock.

Just make sure that your fixed magazine meets the requirements of PC 30315(b). A "Bullet Button" is no longer adequate. It's arguable whether the "Maglock" type devices will work. The law requires that "Disassembly" of the action is required in order to remove the magazine. If you accept the maker's argument that "opening" the action is the same as "disassembling" the action, then the Maglock works just fine.

A lot of vendors will decline to ship items to California because of their fear of legal action, confusion of the applicability of our laws, or because they don't want the hassle of dealing with California. That's their right. It's a business decision that they get to make. Just don't be accepting of their often-offered explanation that "it's illegal." But that don't change the bottom line, you're still not gonna get their stuff.

Understood clearly. I never asked for them to ship it, They have an automated system that doesn't allow it, I just change to a different store when that happens lol !

Thanks.

[tnlrat37]

[eXcision]

I have the Mean Arms loader, Which is essentially the same thing as the BF-10, However Cross Armory makes a badass quick release and mag release (2 items that paired together make for fast California Compliant reloading)

https://msrarms.com/collections/california-compliance/products/cross-armory-quickpins

and

https://msrarms.com/collections/california-compliance/products/cross-armory-safemag-gen2-options

[solidfreshdope]

You can have them with a fixed mag under the new definition. I understand your struggle. A few websites refused to ship me a muzzle brake for my featureless build.


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[Jimi Jah]

Keeping that damn bullet button on was the deal breaker for me here. I do love the featureless Magpul fixed carbine stock, the linear compensators and that wonderful feeling Sparrow grip.

I doubt I'd go back even if that old stuff was legal here.

[Blade Gunner]

Keeping that damn bullet button on was the deal breaker for me here. I do love the featureless Magpul fixed carbine stock, the linear compensators and that wonderful feeling Sparrow grip.

I doubt I'd go back even if that old stuffed was legal here.

[Jimi Jah]

My featureless looks good and feels good, I'm very used to it now. I was going to take some pistol grips with me out of state but now I'll just leave the Sparrow's on. At least I don't look like a California geek with paddles on his rifle.