Moving to CA from WA, AR pistol laws?

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Hey guys,

So my brother is trying to move back to CA from Washington. If he buys a pistol lower in Washington, can he bring it back to Cali and build it into a pistol?

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Ca sux, we're all moving from this commie state. .save yourself

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[Strykeback]

Hey guys,

So my brother is trying to move back to CA from Washington. If he buys a pistol lower in Washington, can he bring it back to Cali and build it into a pistol?

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If it turns out to be legal he should definitely bring a few...

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[solidfreshdope]

If he has residency in a state where an AR pistol is legal to own, then he can bring it in as an off roster gun when he moves to CA - it will need to be in a non-assault weapon configuration to remain legal in this state (CA) meaning fixed mag requiring separation of the action to remove.


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[solidfreshdope]

[Quiet]

So my brother is trying to move back to CA from Washington. If he buys a pistol lower in Washington, can he bring it back to Cali and build it into a pistol?

Yes. It is legal for a new resident of CA to import a handgun receiver/frame (this includes AR pistol lower).

However...

Because of CA unsafe handgun laws and CA assault weapons laws, after he moves to CA, he can only use the handgun receiver/frame to legally make a dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistol or a dimensionally complaint break-top single-shot pistol.

If he wants to make the handgun receiver/frame into a semi-auto pistol, then he needs to do that before he moves to CA.
^Resulting firearm needs to be CA legal (can not be considered an assault weapon or generally prohibited weapon) prior to importation into CA.

[RickD427]

Yes. It is legal for a new resident of CA to import a handgun receiver/frame (this includes AR pistol lower).

However...

Because of CA unsafe handgun laws and CA assault weapons laws, after he moves to CA, he can only use the handgun receiver/frame to legally make a dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistol or a dimensionally complaint break-top single-shot pistol.

If he wants to make the handgun receiver/frame into a semi-auto pistol, then he needs to do that before he moves to CA.
^Resulting firearm needs to be CA legal (can not be considered an assault weapon or generally prohibited weapon) prior to importation into CA.

^^^THIS^^^^

So long as California has no basis to consider him as a returning resident (to preclude application of PC 27585), he can bring any lawfully configured handguns (without regard to the roster) with him and then register them within 60 days as a "New Resident."

Things get a little complicated due to the AW statutes. The OP's brother could lawfully import a completed AR pistol having a fixed magazine that complies with PC 30515(a)(8)(B) and is not built on an "Evil by Name" lower.

But if he brings in just the lower, then the options for completing it are just as Quiet has stated.

[rtl]

Yes. It is legal for a new resident of CA to import a handgun receiver/frame (this includes AR pistol lower).

However...

Because of CA unsafe handgun laws and CA assault weapons laws, after he moves to CA, he can only use the handgun receiver/frame to legally make a dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistol or a dimensionally complaint break-top single-shot pistol.

If he wants to make the handgun receiver/frame into a semi-auto pistol, then he needs to do that before he moves to CA.
^Resulting firearm needs to be CA legal (can not be considered an assault weapon or generally prohibited weapon) prior to importation into CA.

Okay so the only way for the pistol to come down here and remain a semi auto break top, is to bring it down completed with an upper? (And the maglock of course).

Otherwise stripped pistol lowers can come down here, but can only be made into SINGLE shot break top pistol?

Thanks for the replies everyone.

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[rtl]

^^^THIS^^^^

So long as California has no basis to consider him as a returning resident (to preclude application of PC 27585), he can bring any lawfully configured handguns (without regard to the roster) with him and then register them within 60 days as a "New Resident."

Things get a little complicated due to the AW statutes. The OP's brother could lawfully import an AR pistol having a fixed magazine that complies with PC 30515(a)(8)(B) and is not built on an "Evil by Name" lower.

Hey Rick,

Under what circumstances would Cali consider someone a returning resident?

So my brother moved there to go to University of Washington for graduate school, and he's been living there for 5 or 6 years now. He has a Washington license so he can purchase all of the free stuff (he's got an SBR and a can).

Thanks

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[Quiet]

Okay so the only way for the pistol to come down here and remain a semi auto break top, is to bring it down completed with an upper? (And the maglock of course).

Otherwise stripped pistol lowers can come down here, but can only be made into SINGLE shot break top pistol?

Correct.

[Quiet]

Under what circumstances would Cali consider someone a returning resident?

So my brother moved there to go to University of Washington for graduate school, and he's been living there for 5 or 6 years now. He has a Washington license so he can purchase all of the free stuff (he's got an SBR and a can).

Any of the following could make it so CA would still considered him a CA resident:
A. He retained his CA DL or CA ID.
B. He is still registered to vote in CA.
C. He has a CA property deed/title/mortgage.
D. He is paying CA income tax.
E. He has employment in CA.

[RickD427]

Hey Rick,

Under what circumstances would Cali consider someone a returning resident?

So my brother moved there to go to University of Washington for graduate school, and he's been living there for 5 or 6 years now. He has a Washington license so he can purchase all of the free stuff (he's got an SBR and a can).

Thanks

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rtl,

Please refer to Penal Code section 17000(b)(1), which is gonna refer you to Vehicle Code section 12505.

The short version is that if your brother had the intent to return to California while he was in Washington, and maintained something that could be considered a home in California, then California's likely to call him a resident.

[rtl]

rtl,

Please refer to Penal Code section 17000(b)(1), which is gonna refer you to Vehicle Code section 12505.

The short version is that if your brother had the intent to return to California while he was in Washington, and maintained something that could be considered a home in California, then California's likely to call him a resident.

Gotcha, only recently did he decide to think about moving down here. He has no property down here as far as I know.

Thanks for the help everyone!

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This may work.

https://www.tracking-point.com/bsd-bolt-stop-device/