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  • SBC400
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2016
    • 87

    Brother Joint Registry

    My brother is the only legal option for me. He can be very conservative with things, but very liberal with others. Want to talk him into to joint registry of my RAWs.

    He has shot guns, owns a Ruger 10/22.

    My first objective is to talk him into joint registry on my RAWs as he is the only one by CA law that can do so on my behalf. And we are running out of time. 5 weeks and still waiting for my own approval.

    I think we still have time to joint register him. It will be a tough sell.

    I have other non RAWs that I would also like him to have should something happen to me. My health is not good.

    First... I would ask what would be my best way to present the above to him without ending the conversation quickly.

    Second...if the first plan fails...how do I make sure he gets all of the non RAWs?
    Last edited by SBC400; 03-22-2018, 6:49 PM.
  • #2
    BAJ475
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2014
    • 5053

    Originally posted by SBC400
    My brother is the only legal option for me. He can be very conservative with things, but very liberal with others. Want to talk him into to joint registry of my RAWs.

    He has shot guns, owns a Ruger 10/22.

    My first objective is to talk him into joint registry on my RAWs as he is the only one by CA law that can do so on my behalf. And we are running out of time. 5 weeks and still waiting for my own approval.

    I think we still have time to joint register him. It will be a tough sell.

    I have other non RAWs that I would also like him to have should something happen to me. My health is not good.

    First... I would ask what would be my best way to present the above to him without ending the conversation quickly.

    Second...if the first plan fails...how do I make sure he gets all of the non RAWs?
    Answering the second question first. Consult an estate planning attorney.

    As far as RAWs, he can only become a co-registerant if you and he live in the same household.

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    • #3
      Cokebottle
      Señor Member
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2009
      • 32373

      Joint registration for RAW is only available for adults 21+ living in the same household.
      If your brother does not live with you, he can not be jointly registered.
      - Rich

      Originally posted by dantodd
      A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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      • #4
        Quiet
        retired Goon
        • Mar 2007
        • 30241

        Originally posted by Cokebottle
        Joint registration for RAW is only available for adults 21+ living in the same household.
        If your brother does not live with you, he can not be jointly registered.
        Correction... Age is 18+. [PC 30950 and 11 CCR 5474.1(b)]
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        "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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        • #5
          Quiet
          retired Goon
          • Mar 2007
          • 30241

          Applicable CA laws/regulations on this topic...

          Penal Code 30900Penal Code 30950
          No person who is under the age of 18 years, and no person who is prohibited by state or federal law from possessing, receiving, owning, or purchasing a firearm, may register or possess an assault weapon or .50 BMG rifle.

          Penal Code 30955California Code of Regulations Title 11 Divison 5 Chapter 39 Article 3 Section 5474.1
          Joint Registration of Assault Weapons.
          (a) If a firearm will be jointly registered, one family member must be identified as the primary registrant. The name and relationship of each joint registrant must be provided. Joint registrants must reside in the same household and share the same address.
          (b) All joint registrants must be 18 years of age by June 30, 2018. Joint registrations are only authorized for the following family relationships:
          (1) Spouses
          (2) Parent to Child
          (3) Child to Parent
          (4) Grandparent to Grandchild
          (5) Grandchild to Grandparent
          (6) Domestic Partners
          (7) Siblings
          (c) Proof of address for each joint registrant shall be provided at the time of electronic submission. Acceptable forms of proof of address are as follows:
          (1) Carry Concealed Weapon (CCW) Permit
          (2) Curio and Relic (C & R) Federal firearm license with name and address
          (3) Utility Bill: Cable, electricity, garbage, gas, pipeline, propane, alarm/security, or water bill with purchaser's name on it and dated within three months of application for registration.
          (4) Military permanent duty station orders indicating assignment within California; (active duty military spouse ID is not acceptable).
          (5) Property Deed: Valid deed or deed of trust for the individual's property or a certificate of title
          (6) Resident Hunting License
          (7) Signed and dated rental agreement/contract or residential lease
          (8) Trailer certification of title
          (9) DMV Vehicle Registration
          (10) Certificate of Eligibility, as defined in section 4031, subdivision (g) of Chapter 3.
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          "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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          • #6
            Blade Gunner
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 4422

            Originally posted by SBC400
            My brother is the only legal option for me. He can be very conservative with things, but very liberal with others. Want to talk him into to joint registry of my RAWs.

            He has shot guns, owns a Ruger 10/22.

            My first objective is to talk him into joint registry on my RAWs as he is the only one by CA law that can do so on my behalf. And we are running out of time. 5 weeks and still waiting for my own approval.

            I think we still have time to joint register him. It will be a tough sell.

            I have other non RAWs that I would also like him to have should something happen to me. My health is not good.

            First... I would ask what would be my best way to present the above to him without ending the conversation quickly.

            Second...if the first plan fails...how do I make sure he gets all of the non RAWs?
            Do you plan to live together your entire lives?
            If you find yourself in a fair fight, you're doing it all wrong.

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