Taking a bullet button AR to the range before 07/01/18?

[Rastoff]

The DOJ regulations themselves say


If it is not a semi-auto it is not an AW.

Learned something new. Do you have a link to that reg?

[jimbo74]

Yes you can

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/regagunfaqs#27b

[USMCmatt]

Thank for this thread! I was wondering...how do they know it's registered? Do you get a card or something?

[Quiet]

Thank for this thread! I was wondering...how do they know it's registered? Do you get a card or something?

When it gets run through AFS...
If it's registered it shows up.
If it's registered as an assault weapon, it is indicated as such on AFS.

After you register it as an assault weapon, CA DOJ BOF mails you paperwork.

Even though it's not required, some people, since 1990, have kept copies of that paperwork with their RAW as a CYA for showing LEOs that the RAW is legal.
^I believe this practice also came about due to DWP holders needing to keep copies of their permit/registration paperwork with their AW/DD/MG/SBR/SBS.

[USMCmatt]

When it gets run through AFS...
If it's registered it shows up.
If it's registered as an assault weapon, it is indicated as such on AFS.

After you register it as an assault weapon, CA DOJ BOF mails you paperwork.

Even though it's not required, some people, since 1990, have kept copies of that paperwork with their RAW as a CYA for showing LEOs that the RAW is legal.
^I believe this practice also came about due to DWP holders needing to keep copies of their permit/registration paperwork with their AW/DD/MG/SBR/SBS.

[Jimi Jah]

I never worry about private ranges. They are not cops and ignore my stuff.

I do worry about BLM agents.

[Quiet]

In theory, they wouldn't be doing this until after 07-01-2018.

[hunterb]

Thank you. Its not very often seen here on Calguns but I greatly appreciate when people post facts not based in fear.

Not sure how Caifornians have fallen so far in life to be spineless cowards, lining up to register their guns at almost any notion.
Disgusting.

4.
more.
months.

Californians are spineless cowards, huh? GTFO

[40marknascar]

I'm no fan of the DOJ, but their FAQ page does answer most of the questions that are constantly asked here. Seems to be a little used resource.

Maybe some people dont want to leave them any cookies? Skepticism of Ca. Gov. is not only warrented, but just plain common sense!

[Endless]

The laws are "guidelines".

Exactly. Just like opinion letters from the BATF.

At the end of the day people are going to do what they want with their own property from firearms to automobiles to pets. 100% fact.

Some folks in Chicago that have always been law abiding folks have illegal firearms because the cost of life outweighs a simple fine and 2 week to 10 year jail time. 100% fact.

[code_blue]

Exactly. Just like opinion letters from the BATF.

At the end of the day people are going to do what they want with their own property from firearms to automobiles to pets. 100% fact.

Some folks in Chicago that have always been law abiding folks have illegal firearms because the cost of life outweighs a simple fine and 2 week to 10 year jail time. 100% fact.

^^^

This is true.

[Blade Gunner]

[Rastoff]

I bet they wouldn't even care about the full auto guns as long as you let them shoot it.

[Dvrjon]

Learned something new. Do you have a link to that reg?

CA Penal Code 30515 https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...5.&lawCode=PEN

(a) Notwithstanding Section 30510, “assault weapon” also means any of the following:
(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that does not have a fixed magazine but has any one of the following:

CCR 5471(hh)(3) at: https://govt.westlaw.com/calregs/Doc...ta=(sc.Default)

(hh) “Semiautomatic” means a firearm functionally able to fire a single cartridge, eject the empty case, and reload the chamber each time the trigger is pulled and released. Further, certain necessary mechanical parts that will allow a firearm to function in a semiautomatic nature must be present for a weapon to be deemed semiautomatic. A weapon clearly designed to be semiautomatic but lacking a firing pin, bolt carrier, gas tube, or some other crucial part of the firearm is not semiautomatic for purposes of Penal Code sections 30515, 30600, 30605(a), and 30900.
(1) A mechanically whole semiautomatic firearm merely lacking ammunition and a proper magazine is a semiautomatic firearm.
(2) A mechanically whole semiautomatic firearm disabled by a gun lock or other firearm safety device is a semiautomatic firearm. (All necessary parts are present, once the gun lock or firearm safety device is removed, and weapon can be loaded with a magazine and proper ammunition.)
(3) With regards to an AR-15 style firearm, if a complete upper receiver and a complete lower receiver are completely detached from one another, but still in the possession or under the custody or control of the same person, the firearm is not a semiautomatic firearm.