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  • tdanielran
    Member
    • Aug 2015
    • 188

    Can Leo transfer off roster guns to non Leo

    Can a Law Enforcement Officer (ppt) transfer off roster guns to non law Enforcement? I am getting conflicting answers online.

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    RickD427
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jan 2007
    • 9258

    Originally posted by tdanielran
    Can a Law Enforcement Officer (ppt) transfer off roster guns to non law Enforcement? I am getting conflicting answers online.

    Thanks


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    It depends on the type of LEO involved and on the conditions under which the LEO acquired the firearm being transferred.

    See AB 2165 (with particular attention to new PC section 32000(c)(1)) for the details: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...01520160AB2165
    If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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    • #3
      tdanielran
      Member
      • Aug 2015
      • 188

      Originally posted by RickD427
      It depends on the type of LEO involved and on the conditions under which the LEO acquired the firearm being transferred.



      See AB 2165 (with particular attention to new PC section 32000(c)(1)) for the details: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...01520160AB2165


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        SantaCabinetguy
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2011
        • 15137

        Originally posted by RickD427
        It depends on the type of LEO involved and on the conditions under which the LEO acquired the firearm being transferred.

        See AB 2165 (with particular attention to new PC section 32000(c)(1)) for the details: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...01520160AB2165
        Actually, i'd argue it only depends on the conditions of acquisition.

        Originally posted by CA PC 32000(c)(1)
        Notwithstanding Section 26825, a person licensed pursuant to Sections 26700 to 26915, inclusive, shall not process the sale or transfer of an unsafe handgun between a person who has obtained an unsafe handgun pursuant to an exemption specified in paragraph (6) of subdivision (b) and a person who is not exempt from the requirements of this section.
        An FFL should be able to process transfers of off-roster pistols from peace officers specified in (b)(6) as long as those firearms were not procured using the exemption.

        Examples might include (b)(6) officers who acquire off-rosters through intrafamilial transfers, consignment, PPTs from individuals, or other pistols owned prior to this "legislative clarification."
        Hauoli Makahiki Hou


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          RickD427
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jan 2007
          • 9258

          Originally posted by Ubermcoupe
          Actually, i'd argue it only depends on the conditions of acquisition.



          An FFL should be able to process transfers of off-roster pistols from peace officers specified in (b)(6) as long as those firearms were not procured using the exemption.

          Examples might include (b)(6) officers who acquire off-rosters through intrafamilial transfers, consignment, PPTs from individuals, or other pistols owned prior to this "legislative clarification."
          Yes, you're right, but how does that differ from what I wrote????????????????
          If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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            etwinam
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2016
            • 3223

            Don't go to iron sights in Oceanside. They won't allow it. Gave me some run around in a similar scenario. FFL fud. They claim any Leo to civilains PPT is a transfer of an unsafe firearm. I just stopped going they for any reason...
            God, Guns & Integrity. Prioritize your Priorities.

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            • #7
              RickD427
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jan 2007
              • 9258

              Originally posted by etwinam
              Don't go to iron sights in Oceanside. They won't allow it. Gave me some run around in a similar scenario. FFL fud. They claim any Leo to civilains PPT is a transfer of an unsafe firearm. I just stopped going they for any reason...
              Good call that you stopped going there. There is no restriction on the ability of originally covered LEOs to transfer via PPT off-roster handguns to non-exempt folks. The PPT restrictions only apply to the newly exempted classes of LEOs.

              Sounds like your FFL didn't take the time to read the new law.
              If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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              • #8
                Librarian
                Admin and Poltergeist
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Oct 2005
                • 44627

                There is a a sticky on this ...

                ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                • #9
                  SantaCabinetguy
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 15137

                  Originally posted by RickD427
                  Yes, you're right, but how does that differ from what I wrote????????????????

                  I'm just being pedantic over the type of LEO part of your post.

                  The way I read the statue it only matters if the firearm was acquired via the exception, no matter if the seller is currently or was previously under (b)(6).



                  Also, when did you go gold??? Is that new???
                  Hauoli Makahiki Hou


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                  • #10
                    RickD427
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 9258

                    Originally posted by Ubermcoupe
                    I'm just being pedantic over the type of LEO part of your post.

                    The way I read the statue it only matters if the firearm was acquired via the exception, no matter if the seller is currently or was previously under (b)(6).



                    Also, when did you go gold??? Is that new???
                    I read it slightly differently. If the seller was an originally covered LEO, then the weapon can be transferred via PPT.

                    If the seller is a newly covered LEO, and the seller acquired the weapon via the exemption, then the weapon cannot be transferred via PPT.

                    And yes, after many years of using the forum, I finally decided it was past time that I should contribute. Just happened a couple of days ago.
                    If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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