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  • billgunner
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2018
    • 3

    Selling to Cali

    Hi. I am curious and I have not been able to find anything during my perusal of the Cali laws. Are 37mm launchers legal in Cali? What about the ammo?
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    billped
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 2504

    From 2010. May have changed so I look forward to the other responses.

    Bill

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    • #3
      Chewy65
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2013
      • 5026

      Originally posted by billgunner
      Hi. I am curious and I have not been able to find anything during my perusal of the Cali laws. Are 37mm launchers legal in Cali? What about the ammo?
      Start with this thread and update it. https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...=594841&page=2

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      • #4
        Quiet
        retired Goon
        • Mar 2007
        • 30241

        Originally posted by billgunner
        Hi. I am curious and I have not been able to find anything during my perusal of the Cali laws. Are 37mm launchers legal in Cali? What about the ammo?
        Under Federal laws/regulations...
        A 37mm signal/chemical launcher is not a Destructive Device.
        It is legal when used with signal type rounds (flares, smoke, chalk, etc) and chemical type rounds (tear gas, pepper, etc).

        However, per ATF Ruling 95-3...
        A 37mm signal/chemical launcher will become a Destructive Device when used with or possessed with anti-personnel type rounds (explosive, incendiary, impact, etc).


        Per CA laws...
        Signal devices are exempt from being a Destructive Device.

        So, a 37mm launcher with signal type rounds (flares, smoke, chalk, etc) is exempt from being a Destructive Device.

        But, a 37mm launcher with chemical type rounds (tear gas, pepper, etc) or anti-personnel type rounds (explosive, incendiary, impact, etc) is considered a Destructive Device.






        Penal Code 16460
        (a) As used in Sections 16510, 16520, and 16780, and in Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 18710) of Division 5 of Title 2, "destructive device" includes any of the following weapons:
        (1) Any projectile containing any explosive or incendiary material or any other chemical substance, including, but not limited to, that which is commonly known as tracer or incendiary ammunition, except tracer ammunition manufactured for use in shotguns.
        (2) Any bomb, grenade, explosive missile, or similar device or any launching device therefor.
        (3) Any weapon of a caliber greater than 0.60 caliber which fires fixed ammunition, or any ammunition therefor, other than a shotgun (smooth or rifled bore) conforming to the definition of a "destructive device" found in subsection (b) of Section 479.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, shotgun ammunition
        (single projectile or shot), antique rifle, or an antique cannon.
        (4) Any rocket, rocket-propelled projectile, or similar device of a diameter greater than 0.60 inch, or any launching device therefor, and any rocket, rocket-propelled projectile, or similar device containing any explosive or incendiary material or any other chemical substance, other than the propellant for that device, except those devices as are designed primarily for emergency or distress signaling purposes.
        (5) Any breakable container that contains a flammable liquid with a flashpoint of 150 degrees Fahrenheit or less and has a wick or similar device capable of being ignited, other than a device which is commercially manufactured primarily for the purpose of illumination.
        (6) Any sealed device containing dry ice (CO2) or other chemically reactive substances assembled for the purpose of causing an explosion by a chemical reaction.
        (b) A bullet containing or carrying an explosive agent is not a destructive device as that term is used in subdivision (a).
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        "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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        • #5
          billgunner
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2018
          • 3

          Thanks. Seems pretty clear.

          Now, are signalling rounds "ammunition" as far as Cali is concerned? That is to say, need one go thru a dealer.

          I am a manufacturer of 37mm products and I am trying to decide how to deal with your state. Thing is that, for a small business, it can easily become problematic to deal with a hostile entity.

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          • #6
            Quiet
            retired Goon
            • Mar 2007
            • 30241

            Originally posted by billgunner
            Thanks. Seems pretty clear.

            Now, are signalling rounds "ammunition" as far as Cali is concerned? That is to say, need one go thru a dealer.

            I am a manufacturer of 37mm products and I am trying to decide how to deal with your state. Thing is that, for a small business, it can easily become problematic to deal with a hostile entity.
            If it has primed case, propellent, and projectile(s); then it is considered "ammunition" under CA laws. [PC 16150(a)]

            CA laws requires ammunition acquired by a CA resident from outside of CA to be shipped to a CA DOJ licensed ammunition dealer or CA FFL dealer or an exempt person. [PC 30314]
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            "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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            • #7
              billgunner
              Junior Member
              • Feb 2018
              • 3

              Thanks all. I know what I need to know.

              Seems our best bet is getting a dealer in-state.
              Last edited by billgunner; 02-19-2018, 4:34 AM.

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