San Francisco hotels and gun laws

[MTAire]

I'm doing research regarding what laws apply in San Francisco for travelers outside the city.

As far as I know there's no law against storing firearms in an airbnb or hotel so long as it's stored in a locked case (just like residences). If they have a policy against it they can ask you to leave perhaps.

Hollow point possession may be a gray area.

You cannot leave it in a car.

Transportation unloaded in a locked case in a backpack is allowed on the street and in BART/muni.

Is there anything I'm missing?

[Quiet]

Transportation unloaded in a locked case in a backpack is allowed on the street and in BART/muni.

While outside of a vehicle, transporting the unloaded firearm in the locked container, you must be going directly to and from an authorized location where you can legally possess the firearm.

Can't be wandering around.

Example...
Vehicle to residence = legal
Residence to vehicle = legal
Vehicle to range = legal
Range to vehicle = legal
Residence to shopping center = not legal
Vehicle to movie theater = not legal
Vehicle to resturant = not legal

[MTAire]

While outside of a vehicle, transporting the unloaded firearm in the locked container, you must be going directly to and from an authorized location where you can legally possess the firearm.

Can't be wandering around.

Example...
Vehicle to residence = legal
Residence to vehicle = legal
Vehicle to range = legal
Range to vehicle = legal
Residence to shopping center = not legal
Vehicle to movie theater = not legal
Vehicle to resturant = not legal

Thanks for that. That makes SF pretty difficult since it's illegal to keep a firearm in your car unless you modify the car.

[Jimi Jah]

So SF law superceeds California law? We know they do have their own immigration laws there.

[P5Ret]

Thanks for that. That makes SF pretty difficult since it's illegal to keep a firearm in your car unless you modify the car.

Really, where do you see that? San Francisco just like the state law requires a firearm left in a vehicle to be secured, (about the only gun law that makes sense). I've never seen anything that says you have to modify a vehicle to leave a gun in your car. I think leaving a gun in a car is a stupid idea to be avoided at all costs anywhere there are other people. Since the voting public was too stupid to realize the effects that came from prop 47's passage.

[Jimi Jah]

Thanks for that. That makes SF pretty difficult since it's illegal to keep a firearm in your car unless you modify the car.

True. LEO's and BLM agents have their vehicles modified with open windows so illegal aliens can grab them more easily.

[Dan_Eastvale]

San Francisco creates their own laws, which are binding until the courts strike them down..
I remember they banned handgun ownership until the courts stepped in.

[BAJ475]

While outside of a vehicle, transporting the unloaded firearm in the locked container, you must be going directly to and from an authorized location where you can legally possess the firearm.

Can't be wandering around.

Example...
Vehicle to residence = legal
Residence to vehicle = legal
Vehicle to range = legal
Range to vehicle = legal
Residence to shopping center = not legal
Vehicle to movie theater = not legal
Vehicle to resturant = not legal

Can't be wandering around? The last time that I was in SF wandering around I had my pistol with me, but it was not unloaded or in a locked case?

[Blade Gunner]

I'm doing research regarding what laws apply in San Francisco for travelers outside the city.

As far as I know there's no law against storing firearms in an airbnb or hotel so long as it's stored in a locked case (just like residences). If they have a policy against it they can ask you to leave perhaps.

Hollow point possession may be a gray area.

You cannot leave it in a car.

Transportation unloaded in a locked case in a backpack is allowed on the street and in BART/muni.

Is there anything I'm missing?

[rdtompki]

I don't believe it's legal to leave a gun in a hotel room. You don't have exclusive access to that space. You need to take the gun with you.

"You can't leave in a car" is news to me.

Unless San Francisco has a law on the books to the contrary, there is no destination requirement when transporting a handgun (unloaded, cased) in a motor vehicle. Probably different when walking and cycling.

[Cokebottle]

I don't believe it's legal to leave a gun in a hotel room. You don't have exclusive access to that space. You need to take the gun with you.

That is a possibility. The hotel room is considered to be your residence, so it is certainly legal while you are in the room, but leaving the gun in the room unattended may be a problem.

Regardless, it absolutely is a problem for most of the major hotels, including the Hotel Nikko, where you sign an agreement on check-in that you will not bring any firearms into the hotel.
Not criminal, but absolutely the potential for a trespass charge if discovered.

Unless San Francisco has a law on the books to the contrary, there is no destination requirement when transporting a handgun (unloaded, cased) in a motor vehicle. Probably different when walking and cycling.

100% correct.

Walking and cycling are a problem because the PC refers to "within a motor vehicle"... otherwise, specific destination requirements apply.

[sakosf]

I'm doing research regarding what laws apply in San Francisco for travelers outside the city.

As far as I know there's no law against storing firearms in an airbnb or hotel so long as it's stored in a locked case (just like residences). If they have a policy against it they can ask you to leave perhaps.

Hollow point possession may be a gray area.

You cannot leave it in a car.

Transportation unloaded in a locked case in a backpack is allowed on the street and in BART/muni.

Is there anything I'm missing?

https://sanfranciscopolice.org/san-francisco-municipal-police-code-618-prohibited-ammunition

[Packy14]

https://sanfranciscopolice.org/san-f...ted-ammunition

so if I carry in SF with my HST, i'm breaking the law despite having a LTC... because they have decided my ammo is no good. I'd fight that in court if I got charged with that, since its a common LE ammo choice.

[Jimi Jah]

A San Francisco jury will convict you.

[Packy14]

A San Francisco jury will convict you.

as a longtime warrior and giants fan... its a shame I wont bother going to SF anymore. Let it burn to the ground. Sodom and Gomorra style (fittingly).