AW Registration Guide **3/18/2021 update: Registration may re-open soon**

[boatlee]

Sorry if this has been asked prior. Do we get a certificate or something proving oir registration

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[Eddie1965]

I registered 10 firearms about a month ago and got all the emails today; only 2 complete and they sent back 8 as incomplete. I corrected 7 of them as they were simple requests, i.e. specific model, make, clearer pictures, etc.

The question I have is in regard to my Draco pistol, they sent it back requesting that I add another category. It clearly doesn't have a forward pistol grip and I know it's a no-no (NFA) so the only other thing remaining is the barrel shroud.

I found this in the first 5 posts:

For pistols, if there is a forward handguard/shroud of any type, DOJ wants you to select "Second handgrip" and/or "Shroud" - in the case of most AR pistols, you would select both

Should I just select a barrel shroud and resubmit?

[Ian]

yay...the friggin site is down...managed to get two in the pending cart and still have a few more...

[CandG]

I registered 10 firearms about a month ago and got all the emails today; only 2 complete and they sent back 8 as incomplete. I corrected 7 of them as they were simple requests, i.e. specific model, make, clearer pictures, etc.

The question I have is in regard to my Draco pistol, they sent it back requesting that I add another category. It clearly doesn't have a forward pistol grip and I know it's a no-no (NFA) so the only other thing remaining is the barrel shroud.

I found this in the first 5 posts:

For pistols, if there is a forward handguard/shroud of any type, DOJ wants you to select "Second handgrip" and/or "Shroud" - in the case of most AR pistols, you would select both

Should I just select a barrel shroud and resubmit?

Select both. The checkbox does NOT say "forward pistol grip" (which is an NFA no-no like you said), it says "second handgrip", which is perfectly legal and (in the case of an AR) is the same exact thing as a barrel shroud. They will bounce back your app unless you check both boxes.

The "forward pistol grip" checkbox only appears when you select "rifle" as the firearm type.

When you select "pistol" as the firearm type, the checkbox says "second handgrip", and the "forward pistol grip" checkbox disappears.

Second handgrips are fine on AW pistols, so long as they aren't vertical.

[CandG]

Sorry if this has been asked prior. Do we get a certificate or something proving oir registration

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Yes, when all your weapons have been approved, you'll get a letter in the mail saying so. Make lots of copies (digital and paper), as it's a pain in the butt to request a replacement if you ever lose it.

[beanz2]

Woohooo, got letter in the mail from DOJ. Glad it wasn't a knock on the door lol.

I think this is from the "safe" batch of ARs from late April. Got bigger batches I'm still sweating on from May. Thank God for NV.

Opened the envelope when I got home and it was an approval letter for my last batch of 2 rifles. It was submitted on 6/5/18, got email on "submission confirmation notice" on 6/6/18. The letter said it was approved on 6/8/18 and the letter went out on 6/9/18. It was received on 6/13/18 . . . So, I got the approval letter 8 days from submission!!!

I still have applications from late April and mid May I haven't heard about, but a couple more "submission confirmation notice" emails from the April batch came in today.

[BMartin1776]

(i) The model of the firearm, if such designation has been made;...."

1911 and Glock 80's, ANY pistol really(NO model stamped on my FFL store purchased H&K) does NOT have model engraved on them. Yet the field for inputting *Model is required. What do you put in the box, "N/A"? If you input anything else, ie "1911", that would infer 1911 is in fact stamped on the frame.

[Discogodfather]

(i) The model of the firearm, if such designation has been made;...."

1911 and Glock 80's, ANY pistol really(NO model stamped on my FFL store purchased H&K) does NOT have model engraved on them. Yet the field for inputting *Model is required. What do you put in the box, "N/A"? If you input anything else, ie "1911", that would infer 1911 is in fact stamped on the frame.

You have to remember how inconstant the DROS system is in general, inconsistencies they continued into the AW registry. For instance, I have a Sig Sauer made (USA made) 552 clone I built from a 552 parts kit. It's clearly made by Sig Sauer in Exeter NH. That's what I put in my AW reg form.

I got an email saying I needed to change it to JP Sauer and Sons, which I did and it actually appears that way on the letter. Makes no sense whatsoever, I in fact own a SSG3000 which is a Sauer in Germany, yet on the AFS it is listed as Sig Sauer.

They just don't know what they are doing and don't care about changing it. I'd estimate at least a quarter of all DROS'd firearms in CA have some kind of inconstancy when it comes to model and manufacturer.

Trying to understand the rhyme or reason to it is impossible.

[BMartin1776]

You have to remember how inconstant the DROS system is in general, inconsistencies they continued into the AW registry. For instance, I have a Sig Sauer made (USA made) 552 clone I built from a 552 parts kit. It's clearly made by Sig Sauer in Exeter NH. That's what I put in my AW reg form.

I got an email saying I needed to change it to JP Sauer and Sons, which I did and it actually appears that way on the letter. Makes no sense whatsoever, I in fact own a SSG3000 which is a Sauer in Germany, yet on the AFS it is listed as Sig Sauer.

They just don't know what they are doing and don't care about changing it. I'd estimate at least a quarter of all DROS'd firearms in CA have some kind of inconstancy when it comes to model and manufacturer.

Trying to understand the rhyme or reason to it is impossible.

Ok so what do you put in the box for model if you have an 80% 1911? My name, location&SN are on the weapon. If I put 1911 thats not true bc 1911 is not stamped on it, but its a 1911....

[Gryff]

Submitted my registration for five rifles on Monday.

The two that concern me were one AR-pattern that had FDE aspects like the stock, pistol grip and foregrip. Thought it was too much extra "color" to not chose Multicolored. The receiver on this one (LCW purchased 2008) did not have caliber markings of any kind on it (not even "Multi"). Submitted as Multi and got pics of the 556 markings on the barrel.

The other rifle that worries me was a "Multi" marked lower, but with a Daniel Defense upper that has an A2 front sight and free-float rail. Could not find any caliber marking on the visible portions of the barrel, and didn't have the tools to disassemble the upper enough to get to where the barrel markings are supposed to be (top of the barrel under the rail). The side of the upper receiver itself did have a "5.56" logo on it, so I submitted a picture of that. Not looking forward to having to disassemble the gun if the State rejects that as proof of caliber.

[stormtrooperx]

Submitted my registration for five rifles on Monday.

The two that concern me were one AR-pattern that had FDE aspects like the stock, pistol grip and foregrip. Thought it was too much extra "color" to not chose Multicolored. The receiver on this one (LCW purchased 2008) did not have caliber markings of any kind on it (not even "Multi"). Submitted as Multi and got pics of the 556 markings on the barrel.

I would've submitted that one as 5.56, but maybe you'll luck out and they won't kick it back.

The other rifle that worries me was a "Multi" marked lower, but with a Daniel Defense upper that has an A2 front sight and free-float rail. Could not find any caliber marking on the visible portions of the barrel, and didn't have the tools to disassemble the upper enough to get to where the barrel markings are supposed to be (top of the barrel under the rail). The side of the upper receiver itself did have a "5.56" logo on it, so I submitted a picture of that. Not looking forward to having to disassemble the gun if the State rejects that as proof of caliber.

The stamping on the receiver takes precedence of what's on the barrel, so you should just choose "Multi". No need to even include photo of barrel (shouldn't hurt if you do include it though). If going by the stamping on the barrel, I always put a comment indicating that too (something like "Receiver has no caliber marking, including photo of barrel with 5.56 marking").

[Gryff]

I would've submitted that one as 5.56, but maybe you'll luck out and they won't kick it back.

The problem is that the lower is marked "Multi" while the upper is marked "5.56" (but I couldn't see barrel markings). I figured I was damned if I did and damned if I didn't

The stamping on the receiver takes precedence of what's on the barrel, so you should just choose "Multi". No need to even include photo of barrel (shouldn't hurt if you do include it though). If going by the stamping on the barrel, I always put a comment indicating that too (something like "Receiver has no caliber marking, including photo of barrel with 5.56 marking").

Per the guide at the start of this thread, I listed it as Multi since it didn't have ANY caliber marking, and in the notes I put Caliber: 5.56 NATO.

[ers1978]

This may have been previously answered in this thread, but has anyone had any issues submitting photos with a tape-measure in them? I finished up all my photographing and had sat down to read through the registration guide one more time before I started and noticed the suggestion to "not have any measuring devices in your photos". Anyone run into any problems with this? i'd rather not have to re-shoot any photos, and all my firearms clearly meet minimum length.

[seainc]

This may have been previously answered in this thread, but has anyone had any issues submitting photos with a tape-measure in them? I finished up all my photographing and had sat down to read through the registration guide one more time before I started and noticed the suggestion to "not have any measuring devices in your photos". Anyone run into any problems with this? i'd rather not have to re-shoot any photos, and all my firearms clearly meet minimum length.

I got my TAVOR approved and they did not ask photos with tape measure.

[beanz2]

This may have been previously answered in this thread, but has anyone had any issues submitting photos with a tape-measure in them? I finished up all my photographing and had sat down to read through the registration guide one more time before I started and noticed the suggestion to "not have any measuring devices in your photos". Anyone run into any problems with this? i'd rather not have to re-shoot any photos, and all my firearms clearly meet minimum length.

Only in pics of my Chinese AK folders with long flash hiders I had a tape measure taken with the stocks folded to demonstrate that they are indeed >30 inches in length.

None of the other rifles had tape measures in the pics.