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  • HK-40
    Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 196

    Trade and PPT

    Is trade considered a sale according to DOJ? We can do 5 PPT's per calendar year, does it include the times when You trade for another gun? In general, do they (ATF, DOJ, etc) view trades in the same way as sales?
  • #2
    Garv the innocent
    RSG Minion, Senior
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Apr 2014
    • 9009

    Yes.

    DOJ does not see the money change hands.
    They see DROS.
    5 DROS is the handgun limit (not long gun), but multiple guns can be sold/traded on one DROS.
    Last edited by Garv; 05-28-2017, 11:24 PM.
    Originally posted by Kestryll:
    It never fails to amuse me how people get outraged but fail to tell the whole story in their rants....

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    • #3
      Cokebottle
      Seņor Member
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2009
      • 32373

      You can do 5 handgun TRANSACTIONS (out of your possession)... not "sales"
      Long gun transactions are "infrequent and irregular"

      Purchases are limited only by your wallet (or 1-every-30 for dealer transfers (of handguns, for now))



      Edited to clarify
      Last edited by Cokebottle; 05-29-2017, 11:04 AM.
      - Rich

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      A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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      • #4
        SomeGuy75
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2015
        • 1405

        Originally posted by Cokebottle
        You can do 5 handgun TRANSACTIONS... not "sales"

        Long gun transactions are "infrequent and irregular"
        Holy crap there's a 5 DROS limit ?!?!?

        When did this happen?

        Phucking California!

        Well I'm WAY over that already, but I keep getting approved.

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        • #5
          Garv the innocent
          RSG Minion, Senior
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Apr 2014
          • 9009

          There is a "seller" and a "buyer" on the form.

          You can be the seller 5 times for handguns.
          No limit for the buyer. (Yet)

          Apparently many here exceed the limit and enforcement is not a priority. (Yet)
          Last edited by Garv; 05-29-2017, 12:13 AM.
          Originally posted by Kestryll:
          It never fails to amuse me how people get outraged but fail to tell the whole story in their rants....

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          • #6
            SkyHawk
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Sep 2012
            • 23495

            Originally posted by SomeGuy75
            Holy crap there's a 5 DROS limit ?!?!?

            When did this happen?

            Phucking California!

            Well I'm WAY over that already, but I keep getting approved.
            Only for transfers OUT of your possession. You can acquire as many as you want. But you can dispose of handguns in only 5 transactions per calendar year before you are violating a law.

            And trade or sale makes no difference, it is still a transfer out of your possession.
            Click here for my iTrader Feedback thread: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...r-feedback-100

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