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  • mtngun
    Junior Member
    • May 2009
    • 22

    Glock 47 from out of State daughter?

    My daughter lives and is a resident of Texas.
    Can she transfer a G47 she bought legally in TX to me, a CA resident?
    I realize it's not on the approved list.
    I awaited the single stack compact glock for my ccw use and am disappointed it is not approved.
    Being tall and thin my G19 is not suitable for ccw and I've been using a Kahr PM9, would prefer the G47.
    If it's able to be legally transferred to me, will I be able to (subject to local LE) use the G47 for ccw here?
    I searched and struck out on previous posts.
  • #2
    SkyHawk
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Sep 2012
    • 23495

    There is no G47. It was an April fools joke though in 2015.

    So I'd say, probably not. Super secret ghost guns are probably a no-go. This is CA after all.

    And no one can answer CCW questions about what you can or cannot carry unless we know what agency issued your CCW.
    Last edited by SkyHawk; 04-19-2017, 7:29 PM.
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    • #3
      Abu Riyah
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      • Apr 2015
      • 523

      Probably a G43....THAT is the single stack many are drooling over and emptying their pockets to get here in the PRK...and yes, she can legally gift it to you through an FFL without regard for the roster.
      Last edited by Abu Riyah; 04-19-2017, 7:30 PM.


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      • #4
        Nor*Cal
        Veteran Member
        • Nov 2011
        • 2687

        Your Texas daughter can indeed gift you an off roster handgun. You will need to find a CA FFL that is knowledgeable about out of state intrafamily transfers. Mags must be 10 rounds or less and no threaded barrels.

        As for having an off roster handgun on your CA CCW, that's up to your issuing agency and you did not say what county you are in.

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        • #5
          mtngun
          Junior Member
          • May 2009
          • 22

          Yes G43, my haste to post, along with dreaming of the Makarov.
          Authorizing agency S.O.
          Local gun shop thought it o.k., just wanted to verify.
          Just may verify with S.O.
          Thank you all, also making jest of my folly

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          • #6
            SkyHawk
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Sep 2012
            • 23495

            She can send it, must go through a CA FFL. One in thirty rule will apply. You pay dealer transfer fee (varies by dealer) and DROS fee. Talk to your local FFL about how they want it to be sent and what documentation they want from your daughter.

            I don't know what county or city SO is, so can't say about carrying it.

            My CCW is issued by Placer County Sheriff and I have a G43 on my permit.
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            • #7
              mtngun
              Junior Member
              • May 2009
              • 22

              She is coming to visit, so hopefully transfer can be done face to face.
              Calling S.O. this morning, thank you again.
              Hopefully my Daughter can give me a great birthday present next month!

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              • #8
                OCArmory
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 1321

                Still won't count as a PPT since she is not a CA resident. Make sure you are good on your 1 in 30

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                • #9
                  mtngun
                  Junior Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 22

                  Follow-up
                  Local S.O. has no problem with G43 provided it's legally transferred.
                  Out of State Daughter and I will go to FFL in CA and do the proper paperwork and pay fees.
                  No need to skirt the law, and 1 in 30 will be abide.
                  I want to remain in good standing and have no desire to risk that status.

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                  • #10
                    mtngun
                    Junior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 22

                    O.K. My FFL says that my daughter now has to become a Ca resident prior to doing the transfer.
                    I previously searched and found this old thread: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1058641
                    that lead me to believe otherwise and what prompted my o.p.
                    Do I need to talk with my FFL, or find another, or have the rules changed?

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                    • #11
                      Oceanbob
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 12719

                      Where do you live? Why do we have to ask this question?

                      Bob
                      May the Bridges I burn light the way.

                      Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

                      Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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                      • #12
                        billped
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 2504

                        Find a more knowledgeable FFL.
                        Bill

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                        • #13
                          Garv the innocent
                          RSG Minion, Senior
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 9010

                          Originally posted by mtngun
                          O.K. My FFL says that my daughter now has to become a Ca resident prior to doing the transfer.
                          I previously searched and found this old thread: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1058641
                          that lead me to believe otherwise and what prompted my o.p.
                          Do I need to talk with my FFL, or find another, or have the rules changed?
                          Find an FFL that knows what they are doing, yours does not.

                          (With reasonable fees also)
                          Originally posted by Kestryll:
                          It never fails to amuse me how people get outraged but fail to tell the whole story in their rants....

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                          • #14
                            kantstudien
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 1795

                            From the sticky:

                            IF one party is NOT a CA resident we need to follow Federal law. Federal law requires an FFL for interstate transfer.

                            It doesn't matter what you may get from a DOJ phone call or the clerk or owner at your local gun store; if they understand the transfer is between residents of different states and do not tell you "FFL" they are wrong.

                            IF the transfer is a handgun, Federal law requires an FFL in the state of the receiver.

                            It does NOT matter if that state's state law does not require an FFL for a private transfer, because we're trying to obey Federal law.

                            IF the receiving family member is a CA resident, the transfer of any gun at all requires the CA FFL.

                            But because this is an intrafamilial transfer, handgun transfers are exempt from the Roster.




                            And then, if the Federal law has forced the transaction into a CA FFL, the FFL and the receiving party are required to follow both Federal and California law as applies to an FFL transaction:

                            1 handgun in 30 days DOES apply
                            10-day wait DOES apply
                            Firearms safety certificate DOES apply
                            DROS applies
                            4473 applies
                            Dealer gets to charge his fee

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                            • #15
                              rollyourown
                              Member
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 324

                              forget it....I am wrong in my understanding of this issue. after have read the ATF code more closely Skyhawk and Krestyl are correct. quite frankly with what they have said and what I have just read I don't see how a out of state parent/child could give a in state parent/child a firearm, meet federal USC 18 and CA DOJ requirements for handgun transfers.
                              Last edited by rollyourown; 05-27-2017, 11:56 PM. Reason: I have been proven wrong and am ignorant..i am a jackass on this one

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