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[Oceanbob]

There are alot of questions about next year's laws, I was speaking with someone and they said if we have an AR with a bullet button in our possession this year, we can keep it on next year and have all of our nasty features without registering. I don't think this is correct, bullet buttons are being done away with and it's featureless or RAW, correct?

If you register your AR as a RAW, Next year after registration you remove the bullet button and drop mags normally. (10 round). With nasty features.

Go featureless. No restrictions and you can still drop your mags with your finger as you do now with featureless. No paperwork either.

[Drew Eckhardt]

There are alot of questions about next year's laws, I was speaking with someone and they said if we have an AR with a bullet button in our possession this year, we can keep it on next year and have all of our nasty features without registering.

Only until December 31st, 2017 which is the deadline for registration.

I don't think this is correct, bullet buttons are being done away with and it's featureless or RAW, correct?

Not semiautomatic, rimfire, fixed magazine (can only be removed after disassembling the action), featureless, and RAW are all legal options.

Tangents to think about:

They aren't creating a new weapons classification (like 50 caliber rifles), there's no law against changing a RAW configuration, and you should be able to revert to a free state configuration.

The legislature already passed a featureless ban (SB374 in 2013), and when they try again Newsom won't veto like Brown. A complete semi-automatic ban is the next step. If you're going to register eventually, you might as well do it now and enjoy your guns for longer without risking a new legal category that disallows reconfiguration.

[Librarian]

Explain... So featureless rifles will eventually not meet the requirement?

"Will"? Who knows?

But the trend is clearly to more restrictions.

[Dano3467]

^^^this

[Drew Eckhardt]

Explain... So featureless rifles will eventually not meet the requirement?

California will close the featureless loophole by the end of 2019.

Our legislature already passed SB-374 doing that in 2013, although Governor Brown vetoed it.

In the 2016 election, the Democrats gained a super majority in both houses which allows them to override a gubernatorial veto without any Republican co-conspirators.

Gavin Newsom is a shoe-in for the Democratic gubernatorial nomination and therefore next governor of California. He was the Mayor of San Francisco. He's the one who brought us Proposition 63 with jail time for regular capacity magazines and a statewide ban on internet ammunition sales. He'll sign a featureless ban when he assumes office in 2019 if our legislature hasn't already overridden Brown's veto on such a bill.

This is the natural consequence of a state that's mostly urban and becoming more so, with over half our population living in the San Francisco Bay and LA Metro areas.

[someR1]

Explain... So featureless rifles will eventually not meet the requirement?

eventually yes. But who knows how long it will take.

This is Kommifornia. Eventually we will be stuck with bolt action and revolvers only.

[Jimi Jah]

So what is it? Featureless = keep BB, register and take it off? Or is it another "grey" area to dance around?

[djhall]

So what is it? Featureless = keep BB, register and take it off? Or is it another "grey" area to dance around?

I don't understand the question.

After Dec 31, 2016, you can no longer build buy or sell any featured rifle unless it has a fixed magazine. The use of a tool to remove the magazine (bullet button) no longer qualifies as an exemption from being an "assault weapon".

If you owned a featured rifle before Jan 1, 2017, you have until Dec 31, 2017 to register it as an assault weapon, convert it to featureless, convert it to a fixed magazine, remove it from the state, or surrender it to law enforcement.

After Dec 31, 2017, any featured rifle that does not have a fixed magazine and is not registered automatically becomes an illegal unregistered assault weapon.

[mej16489]

After Dec 31, 2017, any featured rifle that does not have a fixed magazine and is not registered automatically becomes an illegal unregistered assault weapon.

Featured rifles without fixed magazines become 'assault weapons' on Jan 1, 2017. There is a grace period until Dec 31, 2017 for possession if one legally possessed the 'assault weapon' prior to Jan 1, 2017.

[Rickrock1]

Who's on first with BB

[SiegeX]

If you're going to register eventually, you might as well do it now and enjoy your guns for longer without risking a new legal category that disallows reconfiguration.

Not even once. I encourage all to do whatever you can to legally comply without registering; even if that means one day AR's will need to be in 100 pieces locked in a safe under a foot of solid concrete.

Some people say "they" win if that takes another AR off the range. To me, the *only* way they win is if they get you on a list and force you to transfer ownership of the rifle you bought and paid with your hard earned cash only to lease it to you in a way that they see fit. I truly believe that every registered gun is selfishly trading away another chip off the 2A for your personal enjoyment. It's a devils deal and I want none of it.

[djhall]

Featured rifles without fixed magazines become 'assault weapons' on Jan 1, 2016. There is a grace period until Dec 31, 2017 for possession if one legally possessed the 'assault weapon' prior to Jan 1, 2016.

Assuming you meant 2017 where you wrote 2016, I think we are saying the same thing. If there is a grace period until Dec 31, 2017, then Jan 1, 2018 it becomes an illegal unregistered assault weapon if not already converted or registered, which is what I said.

[mej16489]

Assuming you meant 2017 where you wrote 2016, I think we are saying the same thing. If there is a grace period until Dec 31, 2017, then Jan 1, 2018 it becomes an illegal unregistered assault weapon if not already converted or registered, which is what I said.

eep, dates corrected - thank you.

Yes, my change is mostly semantics, but important from what someone else might infer from your statement.

They become illegal assault weapons on day 1 2017...but prosecution for possession is delayed for a year for those who legally possessed them prior to 2017.

[djhall]

They become illegal assault weapons on day 1 2017...but prosecution for possession is delayed for a year for those who legally possessed them prior to 2017.

Hmm... how about "they become assault weapons on Jan 1, 2017, and they become illegal unregistered assault weapons on Jan 1, 2018 if not registered or converted to featureless"?