What you can/cannot or must do with Registered Assault Weapons (RAW)

[jgarden]

Yes, it is touchy, as the law says "directly between"
But in this case, the airport is still a location/mode of transport and not a side-trip.

But is there another section which prohibits transportation of an AW into the state? (With grace period out may not apply till 2018).

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[Cokebottle]

But is there another section which prohibits transportation of an AW into the state? (With grace period out may not apply till 2018).

Actually it is potentially the opposite.

The "grace period" is only to allow for registration and seems to only provide an exemption to the "possession" statute.
Registration provides the general exemptions for possession, lending, transportation, and importation.

[hugocbr]

If I register a lower as an AW, Can I then buy an upper with a barrel shorter than 16 inches for it?

[Cokebottle]

If I register a lower as an AW, Can I then buy an upper with a barrel shorter than 16 inches for it?

No.

That's Federal

[vmassarano]

A Question to the Librarian or any Calguns organizer:

Have you ever considered taking up a collection of Calguns members to pay for a legal opinion from an established CA law firm specializing in guns laws? They may already have something put together and may release it for a reasonable fee, knowing they may get future business from our individual members.

That would be expensive for an individual, but for $5 or $10 each, we could get amore definitive understanding of the current laws.

I'm not sure if Calguns even has the logistical ability to do that, but it would be worth considering. Just a thought.

[Mayor McRifle]

Have you ever considered taking up a collection of Calguns members to pay for a legal opinion from an established CA law firm specializing in guns laws? They may already have something put together and may release it for a reasonable fee, knowing they may get future business from our individual members.

Michel & Associates is an established California law firm specializing is gun laws. They've put together a book and hosted webinars on California gun laws, including these new laws.

The 4th Edition is out, and it includes these new laws: https://www.amazon.com/California-Gu...ornia+gun+laws

And you cans still listen to the webinars on these new laws for free: http://crpa.org/webinars/

[Quiet]

If I register a lower as an AW, Can I then buy an upper with a barrel shorter than 16 inches for it?

No.
Being a RAW does not exempt the firearm from CA SBR/SBS & MG laws and does not exempt the firearm from Federal NFA laws.

[vmassarano]

To Mayor McRifle,

Thank you for the current references. I will do just that.

Merry Christmas!

[protohyp]

No.
Being a RAW does not exempt the firearm from CA SBR/SBS & MG laws and does not exempt the firearm from Federal NFA laws.

actually isn't the answer yes? just attach/pin and weld whatever device necessary to make it 16.

[Cokebottle]

actually isn't the answer yes? just attach/pin and weld whatever device necessary to make it 16.

But that has nothing to do with California AW laws.

16" barrel is NFA (and California) SBR
Cut a Henry down to 14" and you have an SBR, but it's not a California AW.

So roundabout way, yes, he could buy an upper with a 14" barrel, but he could not install it until it is modified.

[Quiet]

But that has nothing to do with California AW laws.

16" barrel is NFA (and California) SBR
Cut a Henry down to 14" and you have an SBR, but it's not a California AW.

So roundabout way, yes, he could buy an upper with a 14" barrel, but he could not install it until it is modified.

He could buy it, but can't possess it until the barrel length is 16" or greater.
^Exemption would be not owning/possessing a rifle that could use the less than 16" barrel.

Possessing an unattached less than 16" barrel with a rifle that can use it would be "constructive possession" of a SBR. [PC 17170(e)]


Penal Code 17170

[target_shot]

He could buy it, but can't possess it until the barrel length is 16" or greater.

^Exemption would be not owning/possessing a rifle that could use the less than 16" barrel.



Possessing an unattached less than 16" barrel with a rifle that can use it would be "constructive possession" of a SBR. [PC 17170(e)]





Penal Code 17170

So if I own an AR pistol, with 2 "NFA" uppers, and also own an AR rifle, constructive possession applies?

[NissanPreRunner]

So if I own an AR pistol, with 2 "NFA" uppers, and also own an AR rifle, constructive possession applies?

Naw you should be you should be fine, YMMV though. It's all up to interpretation of the laws and "constructive possession and/or intent"

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[Cokebottle]

So if I own an AR pistol, with 2 "NFA" uppers, and also own an AR rifle, constructive possession applies?

No more so than if you have a bottle of bleach, peroxide, and misc plumbing parts but they are not all together on your workbench.

Showing intent is a part of making the case.

Every one of us has "bomb making materials"

[Quiet]

So if I own an AR pistol, with 2 "NFA" uppers, and also own an AR rifle, constructive possession applies?

If you store or transport the "NFA" uppers with the AR pistol, then no.

If you store or transport the "NFA" uppers with the AR rifle, then yes.