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  • #16
    jeffyhog
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    • Nov 2010
    • 2758

    I looked into this year's ago after buying a Benelli and found a lot of confusion regarding this. From what I remember, it was a 922r issue where you had to change additional parts if you wanted to increase the capacity of an imported shotgun beyond 5 rounds. I know how much debate surrounds the 922r issue, so to this date I still don't know the answer. I decided against the extension for mine.

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    • #17
      Jumbi
      Member
      • May 2010
      • 381

      Originally posted by Irishfisher
      See previous thread on exactly the same question.

      http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=569624
      I found this:
      Large Capacity Magazine Restrictions and Exemptions (Penal Code Section 12020)

      A large capacity magazine is defined as “any ammunition feeding device with a capacity to accept more than 10 rounds but shall not be construed to include a feeding device that is permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds nor shall it include any .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device (or, effective January 1, 2002, a tubular magazine contained in a lever-action firearm).” It is important to understand that a large capacity feeding device may be detachable or fixed, and includes any tube ammunition feeding device (other than .22 caliber or, effective January 1, 2002, a tubular magazine contained in a lever-action firearm) that can accommodate more than 10 rounds. A large capacity magazine also includes linked ammunition with more than 10 rounds linked together or an ammunition belt with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

      This seems to say no more than 10 rounds in the magazine...

      Nowhere in this 3 page thread you referenced does it address ghost loading..., used your search button...
      Last edited by Jumbi; 08-18-2016, 6:02 PM.

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      • #18
        NIKSD
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2013
        • 1126

        KSG will hold 2x12+1 mini shells. Or 2x6+1 3" shells...
        https://jpfo.org/articles-assd03/jew-without-gun.htm

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        • #19
          Jumbi
          Member
          • May 2010
          • 381

          Originally posted by NIKSD
          KSG will hold 2x12+1 mini shells. Or 2x6+1 3" shells...
          This issue was addressed and answered in the referenced thread.

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          • #20
            Irishfisher
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2016
            • 1466

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            Last edited by Irishfisher; 08-29-2021, 8:08 AM.

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            • #21
              Pardini
              Senior Member
              • May 2014
              • 1204

              Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
              Please cite the law? There is currently no state law against possession of any +10 round mags. Buying, selling, manufacturing, importing can only be legally done by certain people but, anyone who can legally possess a magazine can legally possess a +10 round magazine under state law. Sure, there are a couple city ords. which prohibit them and, there will be a new law taking affect next year which will prohibit them statewide but, currently, any non prohibited person can have a +10 round mag in CA.
              Yes,yes, of course your right. I didn't completely qualify my answer. Made the assumption that he currently does not possess any extended mags for his benelli. Too much reading between the lines on my part. Maybe he has a 10+ M2 mag from the 90's.
              Originally Posted by OCEquestrian View Post
              Excellent! I am thinking about it as well and I only have 4 points and an unfortunate "match bump" up to expert classification where I am far less "competitive" with my peers there.

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              • #22
                Exodus343
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2012
                • 4720

                OP
                Keep in mind of the 922R compliance since it's not a US made firearm
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                • #23
                  Quiet
                  retired Goon
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 30241

                  Originally posted by Pardini
                  Yes,yes, of course your right. I didn't completely qualify my answer. Made the assumption that he currently does not possess any extended mags for his benelli. Too much reading between the lines on my part. Maybe he has a 10+ M2 mag from the 90's.
                  The Benelli M2 series was released in 2005.
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                  • #24
                    Jumbi
                    Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 381

                    looking into the 922r issue

                    what parts are usually changed to be compliant?
                    Last edited by Jumbi; 08-20-2016, 7:41 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Jumbi
                      Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 381

                      Originally posted by Irishfisher
                      No where in your question did you ask about "ghost loading".
                      Post #14
                      Last edited by Jumbi; 08-20-2016, 8:34 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Jumbi
                        Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 381

                        Originally posted by Exodus343
                        OP
                        Keep in mind of the 922R compliance since it's not a US made firearm
                        Changing to low drag follower and swapping Freedom Fighter Tactical forearm and so now I am M2 922r compliant.

                        That was easy.

                        Yawn...
                        Last edited by Jumbi; 08-20-2016, 8:49 PM.

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                        • #27
                          Jumbi
                          Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 381

                          Originally posted by jeffyhog
                          I looked into this year's ago after buying a Benelli and found a lot of confusion regarding this. From what I remember, it was a 922r issue where you had to change additional parts if you wanted to increase the capacity of an imported shotgun beyond 5 rounds. I know how much debate surrounds the 922r issue, so to this date I still don't know the answer. I decided against the extension for mine.
                          Only need to change 2 things on the M2 for 922r compliance:

                          I'm changing the follower and forearm, now I'm fully 922r compliant.

                          "Suck it" useless lawmakers!
                          Last edited by Jumbi; 08-21-2016, 1:18 PM.

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                          • #28
                            Decoligny
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 10615

                            Originally posted by Chewy65
                            Yes.

                            Bend your mind around this one. What if the gun is chambered for 3" shotshells and has a magazine that holds 10 of the same? How does the fact that the magazine holds more than 10 2.75" shotshells affect the legality of its sale? Hint. It doesn't.
                            If your magazine fits 10 ea 3 in shells snugly, it will only hold 10 ea 2.75" shells.

                            .25" x 10 = 2.5", not enough room for an additional 2.75" shell.

                            If there is play with the 3" shell you might fit in #11 of the 2.75"
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