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  • helpfuljack
    Member
    • Jan 2015
    • 186

    Affidavit Stating Ownership of a Gun Safe or Lock Box

    TLDR - When buying lowers a) make sure you have a gun safe meeting the appropriate characteristics or a CA DOJ Certified Lock Box, and b) fill out the affidavit form properly.

    This is just a heads-up for those of you buying AR/AK lowers, who are newer to this forum, or who have may not purchased a lower before.

    In CA, every gun sold has to come with a gun lock, or, if it is being sold without a gun lock, the purchaser must affirm that he or she has a gun safe meeting certain characteristics, or that he or she has a CA DOJ approved lock box.



    BE CAREFUL FILLING OUT THIS FORM, AND READ IT FIRST.

    When I was purchasing lowers earlier this week, the guy handed it to me, and said, fill out your safe make and model here on the top line, check these two boxes, and sign and date here.

    So I did. Then before I handed it back to him, I looked at it, just to make sure I wasn't signing anything under penalty of perjury that wasn't true. Upon rereading it, I wasn't sure my gun safe was UL certified, and wasn't sure it met all the characteristics. Then I read it further, and I wasn't sure what I had was a gun safe, but was instead a lock box.

    So then I had to ask him for a fresh copy, and filled out the BOTTOM portion, which discusses DOJ Certified Lock Boxes. Luckily the lock box I had purchased met the CA DOJ certifications, and was on their approved list.

    You can see the roster of approved devices here - http://safetydevice.doj.ca.gov/dsearch2.asp

    Anyway, I'm always a bit fussy about trying to obey the laws and avoiding committing perjury, especially when it comes to firearms, so I thought some of you might appreciate the heads-up as well.
  • #2
    Oceanbob
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jun 2010
    • 12719

    Lately I've lost sleep over the Mattress Tags I've torn off.....
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    • #3
      Garv the innocent
      RSG Minion, Senior
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Apr 2014
      • 8970

      Thanks OP.

      Also: the affidavit is not for handguns.

      Originally posted by Librarian
      Safe affidavit does not work for handguns and Federal law. It should, but BATF says no.

      See also the wiki WAYBACK -- https://web.archive.org/web/20150908...es.2C_and_Laws
      Last edited by Garv; 01-23-2016, 4:32 PM.
      Originally posted by Kestryll:
      It never fails to amuse me how people get outraged but fail to tell the whole story in their rants....

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      • #4
        Librarian
        Admin and Poltergeist
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2005
        • 44624

        Originally posted by Garv
        Thanks OP.

        Also: the affidavit is not for handguns.
        ... since BATF refuses to accept it.
        ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

        Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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        • #5
          djhall
          Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 306

          Originally posted by helpfuljack
          So then I had to ask him for a fresh copy, and filled out the BOTTOM portion, which discusses DOJ Certified Lock Boxes. Luckily the lock box I had purchased met the CA DOJ certifications, and was on their approved list.
          Did you have to show your receipt? The section for lockboxes appears to always require a receipt unless you bring the box in with you.

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          • #6
            readysetgo
            CGSSA Coordinator
            • Aug 2011
            • 8688

            Originally posted by djhall
            Did you have to show your receipt? The section for lockboxes appears to always require a receipt unless you bring the box in with you.
            Doh!

            That form is tricky, it would actually be better to separate it into two forms or even three.

            Hey, can I get one of you BOF lurking goons to put in the request after reading this?
            Stand up and be counted, or lay down and be mounted... -Mac

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            • #7
              Win231
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2015
              • 2099

              They must have tightened regulations. It's been a few years since I purchased a handgun. I didn't know the model of my Canon Safe so I just wrote "Canon" & it was sufficient.

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              • #8
                helpfuljack
                Member
                • Jan 2015
                • 186

                Originally posted by djhall
                Did you have to show your receipt? The section for lockboxes appears to always require a receipt unless you bring the box in with you.
                No, they didn't ask for that luckily.

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