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  • cvigue
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2015
    • 1525

    AR (pistol) upper only w/ threaded barrel

    I did search for both AR threaded barrel and threaded barrel before posting this. Sorry if I missed an old answer.


    I don't have anything in the way of AR lowers in California. Is a threaded AR upper legal, since it's not a gun, and I can't assemble it into a gun (constructive violation or whatever) with items I own?
    Last edited by cvigue; 01-15-2016, 2:59 PM. Reason: Made title more specific
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    Decoligny
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    • Mar 2008
    • 10615

    A threaded upper is just gun parts. Perfectly legal. Legally a threaded barrel on an AR is no different than a non-threaded barrel.
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      edgerly779
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      • Aug 2009
      • 19871

      no problem in kommiefornia

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      • #4
        cvigue
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2015
        • 1525

        Originally posted by Decoligny
        A threaded upper is just gun parts. Perfectly legal. Legally a threaded barrel on an AR is no different than a non-threaded barrel.
        It is a pistol length upper, 8.5" in 300BLK, if that matters, but it sounds like probably not.


        EDIT: Yes, I'm getting out of this hellhole (no offense meant) ASAP.

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        • #5
          Quiet
          retired Goon
          • Mar 2007
          • 30241

          Originally posted by cvigue
          It is a pistol length upper, 8.5" in 300BLK, if that matters, but it sounds like probably not.
          As long as you own a handgun, handgun receiver, or do not own a rifle receiver that can use that 8.5" AR upper; then consult this summary...

          Summary on threaded barrels and handguns:
          Threaded barrel not attached to anything = legal
          Threaded barrel attached to a bolt-action pistol = legal
          Threaded barrel attached to a lever-action pistol = legal
          Threaded barrel attached to a pump-action pistol = legal
          Threaded barrel attached to a revolver = legal
          Threaded barrel attached to a single-shot pistol = legal
          Threaded barrel attached to a semi-auto pistol with a fixed magazine = legal
          Threaded barrel attached to a semi-auto pistol that accepts detachable magazines = illegal [PC 30515(a)(4)(A)]


          If you do not own a handgun or handgun receiver and/or own a rifle receiver that can use that 8.5" AR upper, then you are in possession of a SBR. [PC 17170(e)]
          Basically...
          Do not own/possess any type of AR receiver/firearm = legal to possess AR upper with a less than 16" barrel length
          Own AR pistol = legal to possess AR upper with a less than 16" barrel length
          Own AR pistol receiver = legal to possess AR upper with a less than 16" barrel length
          Only own AR rifle = illegal to possess AR upper with a less than 16" barrel length [PC 17170(e)]
          Only own AR rifle receiver = illegal to possess AR upper with a less than 16" barrel length [PC 17170(e)]
          Last edited by Quiet; 01-14-2016, 11:30 PM.
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          • #6
            Sniper3142
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            • May 2004
            • 2579

            Threaded Barrels are totally LEGAL on rifles in California.

            They are illegal on pistols, unless that pistol has a bullet button or similar device (AR Pistols) or is a Registered Assault Weapon.
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            • #7
              stix213
              AKA: Joe Censored
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Apr 2009
              • 18998

              Your only issue would be having a pistol upper while possessing rifle lowers, as that would be SBR constructive possession.

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              • #8
                Decoligny
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Mar 2008
                • 10615

                Originally posted by Sniper3142
                Threaded Barrels are totally LEGAL on rifles in California.

                They are illegal on pistols, unless that pistol has a bullet button or similar device (AR Pistols) or is a Registered Assault Weapon.
                Pistols that are semi-auto with detachable magazines are the only pistols on which threaded barrels are illegal.
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                  CSACANNONEER
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                  • Dec 2006
                  • 44093

                  Originally posted by cvigue
                  I did search for both AR threaded barrel and threaded barrel before posting this. Sorry if I missed an old answer.


                  I don't have anything in the way of AR lowers in California. Is a threaded AR upper legal, since it's not a gun, and I can't assemble it into a gun (constructive violation or whatever) with items I own?
                  Federal law doesn't give a damn whether you have an AR lower in CA or not. You could be violating Federal constructive possession laws if you have an AR rifle in Maine and a short barreled upper in California. Of course, if you also have an AR pistol lower in Alaska, you would have a legal use for the short barreled upper so, there wouldn't be a problem with constructive possession.
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                  • #10
                    Quiet
                    retired Goon
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 30241

                    Originally posted by cvigue
                    I don't have anything in the way of AR lowers in California. Is a threaded AR upper legal, since it's not a gun, and I can't assemble it into a gun (constructive violation or whatever) with items I own?
                    If you own it or have control over it, then it's constructive possession.
                    It does not matter if the items are in the same location or in different States.
                    It's about ownership or control over the parts, which equates to constructive possession.

                    Basically...
                    Do not own/possess any type of AR receiver/firearm = legal to possess AR upper with a less than 16" barrel length
                    Own AR pistol = legal to possess AR upper with a less than 16" barrel length
                    Own AR pistol receiver = legal to possess AR upper with a less than 16" barrel length
                    Only own AR rifle = illegal to possess AR upper with a less than 16" barrel length
                    Only own AR rifle receiver = illegal to possess AR upper with a less than 16" barrel length
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