Binary trigger legality

[stix213]

I think a problem will come up in court where the prosecution will show a video of some DOJ firearm expert firing a gun as fast as they can without bump firing, then they will drop in the trigger and show the same test at nearly double the firing rate. The jury won't know about how fast someone could actually bump fire the gun unless the defense lays that out themselves, but the layman in the jury will see the DOJ evidence as fairly convincing.

[franklinarmory]

...and that is the reason why we are refraining. Ironically however, we'll be able to admit this thread if a case ever comes to fruition.

[ke6guj]

I think a problem will come up in court where the prosecution will show a video of some DOJ firearm expert firing a gun as fast as they can without bump firing, then they will drop in the trigger and show the same test at nearly double the firing rate. The jury won't know about how fast someone could actually bump fire the gun unless the defense lays that out themselves, but the layman in the jury will see the DOJ evidence as fairly convincing.

so the defense just hires Jerry Miculek to rip off a mag full at cyclic rate with a standard trigger to show them what the standard rate is, which just happens to be the same maximum speed that you would be able to get out of the binary trigger.

[eightmd]

I have a question about how the device works. Let's say I pull the trigger and shoot a target, then I decide it is unsafe to fire any more. How do I release the trigger without it firing again?

[ke6guj]

I have a question about how the device works. Let's say I pull the trigger and shoot a target, then I decide it is unsafe to fire any more. How do I release the trigger without it firing again?

you flip the selector to either the single-fire position or put it on safe. once you've done that, you can release the trigger.

[franklinarmory]

exactly.

[emtmark]

Should be called the Jerry upgrade for mortals. Good lord he's fast. It's like he has selective fire in or controlled epilepsy of his own finger.

But his wife's happy


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[Christopher761]

And, nothing in Penal Code or CA Code of Regulations suggests that either "International Firearms Specialist Academy" or BATF gets to further define "multiburst trigger activator".

Remeber there was assault weapons ban stating that AR and AK "pattern" can be added by the DOJ after the fact. And that law was stricken by the appellate court. Maybe after an appeal, this machine gun law would suffer the same fate as the original AR/AK "pattern" ban.

But, in the mean time, yes it might be a machine gun if the BATFE says it is.


As usual, even with a doctorate in law, our laws are impossible to understand.

As a matter of best practice, I would follow the recommendation from Franklin and not use these in CA.