Being forced to buy a lock with a handgun

[edgerly779]

^^^ FUD. FOR HANDGUNS TO SATISFY CHILD SAFETY YES. JUST TO GET OUT OF STORE TO VEHICLE. WORTHLESS UNDER STATE LAW AFTER THAT.THIS HAS BEEN POSTED ON HERE MANY TIMES.

[Best sale]

If you can by location, take your business to FFLs that are well involved in the struggle. They mostly have a better understanding of the Laws and generally don't shove garbage down your throat as a customer.

[Librarian]

You can sign a form swearing that you have a gun safe and then they can't force you to buy the stupid lock.

As has been correctly stated, repeatedly, in this thread, the BATF will not accept a safe affidavit for the Federal requirement.

But the Federal law says nothing about buying a lock with each sale - one must HAVE one at delivery.

Bring your own lock to satisfy Feds; supply safe affidavit for CA (if you want to and you have a qualifying safe or lock box).

[e90bmw]

Safe affidavit is for long guns only.

Handguns need a factory supplied lock or a purchased lock. You can go to walmart and buy and return lock or another option would be to have your wife/friend sell u a lock and print a receipt out. It can be a used lock.

I never had an issue with a Safe Affidavit for handgun purchase.

[rromeo]

So those cheap locks that the Sheriff's department gives out are legal by federal standards, but not CA. So if you have a non-CA Lock, can you fill out the safe affidavit? That seems like it would work, but I imagine not many FFLs would go for it.

[pacrat]

So those cheap locks that the Sheriff's department gives out are legal by federal standards, but not CA. So if you have a non-CA Lock, can you fill out the safe affidavit? That seems like it would work, but I imagine not many FFLs would go for it.

If you file a "safe" affidavit you have complied with state law.

Fed law requires a lock..........[B]ANY LOCK[B]........So Yes, the cheap lock the sheriff gives away fulfills Fed reg.


JM2c

[tummy06]

This just happened to me today for the gsg 22 rifle I bought , it already had a lock on it but they need a receipt for a new one , the gunshop sells them at cost , I understand it is there fault and 7 bucks isn't going to kill me , it's more the point of the matter

[1bulletBarney]

As has been correctly stated, repeatedly, in this thread, the BATF will not accept a safe affidavit for the Federal requirement.

But the Federal law says nothing about buying a lock with each sale - one must HAVE one at delivery.

Bring your own lock to satisfy Feds; supply safe affidavit for CA (if you want to and you have a qualifying safe or lock box).

Ok, since I am going today to to DROS a C&R handgun, would not a hard case handgun lock box with a padlock satisfy the Federal BATF requirement? A cable lock provided with a pryor handgun purchase (cable lock that came with a Glock) satisfy Feds? I must have hard case/padlock when I take delivery of pistol anyway to legally transport...

GTG with safe affidavit for state. Just want to make sure I get this correct to DROS. My FFL 01 is home based and is working his day job(unable to contact). I may just buy a cheapo cable lock and return it after I take delivery on pistol after 10 days...

[CaliforniaLiberal]

If the law requires the lock to be purchased within past 30 days
AND
CA sez you can only buy ONE handgun a month
THEN
Every damn handgun will make you buy a new lock.

Bastards!

But Wait!!

There is reason and logic behind this requirement!

As the CA Legislature was pondering requiring a gun lock for every gun sold, one wise and kindly Legislator stood up at the back of the room and pointed out that careless gun owners might remove a lock from a previously purchased firearm to bring along to satisfy the requirement of a lock for every new purchase.

Oh the Horror! Dear Lord Above save us from the threat of an unlocked gun somewhere. Think of the Children!!

And so it was decreed that every gun purchase would require a brand new gun lock, with proof of it's recent purchase, so that all the evil, snarling guns would never be left dangerously unlocked.

[Jimi Jah]

Some do, even if you bring your own nano vault or lock. They don't get my repeat business. I tell them why too.

[kmca]

So those cheap locks that the Sheriff's department gives out are legal by federal standards, but not CA. So if you have a non-CA Lock, can you fill out the safe affidavit? That seems like it would work, but I imagine not many FFLs would go for it.

Isn't there a regulation/law that won't let a handgun leave a California gun store with a lock, that isn't California approved?

[rromeo]

That's why I was asking. California says lock or safe for all guns, feds say lock for handguns. If you have a CA approved safe, that satisfies CA, and the lock doesn't have to be CA approved for the feds.
A safe affidavit and cheapo lock should work.

[SonofWWIIDI]

I guess I'm fortunate. I've never had a problem with being forced by an FFL to buy a lock when I've purchased a gun.

The only time I had to buy a lock was my own fault. And it was only for the transportation requirement. I didn't notice that the glock case didn't have a hole or place to put a pad lock. So I had to buy a small lock that had a cable to wrap around the handle since the handle was too thick to use my padlock...$15 lesson learned.

When I later bought a ruger, the case had a flange, but no hole in it for a padlock. I brought a drill and made my own hole and used my old cheapo master lock from the old days. The guys at the shop were impressed.

[kmca]

That's why I was asking. California says lock or safe for all guns, feds say lock for handguns. If you have a CA approved safe, that satisfies CA, and the lock doesn't have to be CA approved for the feds.
A safe affidavit and cheapo lock should work.

Sorry I misspoke in my last post. I meant to say that California gun stores might have a law/regulation, that they can't let a gun out of their store without a California approved lock. I know, it's very confusing and most gun stores don't understand.

[Ultraman]

Every guns I have purchased (New or LNIB) always come with the factory-supplied locks. None of the shops require or demand me to lock anything before I leave the shops.