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  • ianadr
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 10

    sks rifle in CA

    I have a SKS that is 922 r compliant with its original fixed magazine but would it be legal in CA to put a magazine lock/bullet button on it and use Tapco 10 rnd magazines rather than the original fixed magazine?

    (I know about striper clips and "the original fixed mag is the best" but in theory, is it legal?)
  • #2
    junior40er
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 3315

    yes, as long as its not removable.
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    • #3
      dwtt
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2005
      • 7470

      What evil features on your SKS would make you need a magazine lock on it?
      Isn't that like putting a magazine lock on a stock Mini-14?

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      • #4
        Quiet
        retired Goon
        • Mar 2007
        • 30241

        Originally posted by dwtt
        What evil features on your SKS would make you need a magazine lock on it?
        Isn't that like putting a magazine lock on a stock Mini-14?
        The restricted (evil) feature on the SKS, is the ability to accept detachable magazines. [PC 30510(a)(11)]

        In order to be CA legal, all SKS rifles need to operate using a fixed 10 or less round magazine.



        Penal Code 30510
        As used in this chapter and in Sections 16780, 17000, and 27555, "assault weapon" means the following designated semiautomatic firearms:
        (a) All of the following specified rifles:
        (11) SKS with detachable magazine.
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        • #5
          Joseph Lee
          Member
          • May 2013
          • 356

          Remember that what's legal in CA may not be legal according to ATF.
          Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but once you install that Tapco mag, you're running afoul of 922R and will need to swap several more (9 IIRC) parts to stay compliant unless of course you've already done that.

          On a side note, If you're going to all that trouble, why not convert it to AK mags? The duckbill seems to have issues. Everyone I've seen with them seem to have constant failures. From what I read on the forums, failures with the Tapco mag are considered a feature. Conversely, those who convert to AK mags end up with a rifle as reliable as the AK but that can actually hit targets! Or you could try to find a SKS-M (if it's legal in CA)

          Personally I think you're opening a can of worms. I've opened a few of those myself over the years.
          Last edited by Joseph Lee; 03-13-2015, 11:24 AM. Reason: I can't count.
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          • #6
            Quiet
            retired Goon
            • Mar 2007
            • 30241

            Originally posted by Joseph Lee
            On a side note, If you're going to all that trouble, why not convert it to AK mags? The duckbill seems to have issues. Everyone I've seen with them seem to have constant failures. From what I read on the forums, failures with the Tapco mag are considered a feature. Conversely, those who convert to AK mags end up with a rifle as reliable as the AK but that can actually hit targets! Or you could try to find a SKS-M (if it's legal in CA)
            SKS that use AK magazines are considered make/model banned in CA. [PC 30710]


            Make/Model banned:
            (make) Made in China (model) SKS Sporter
            (make) Norinco (model) SKS-D
            (make) Norinco (model) SKS-M
            (make) Norinco (model) MC-5D


            Penal Code 30710
            Notwithstanding paragraph (11) of subdivision (a) of Section 30510, an "SKS rifle" under this article means all SKS rifles commonly referred to as "SKS Sporter" versions, manufactured to accept a detachable AK-47 magazine and imported into this state and sold by a licensed gun dealer, or otherwise lawfully possessed in this state by a resident of this state who is not a licensed gun dealer, between January 1, 1992, and December 19, 1997.
            Last edited by Quiet; 03-13-2015, 1:36 PM.
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            • #7
              brianm767
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2006
              • 2419

              SKS that accepts detachable mags is banned by name. Does your SKS say "SKS" on it?
              And here we goooo.
              Last edited by brianm767; 03-13-2015, 5:02 PM.

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              • #8
                ianadr
                Junior Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 10

                Originally posted by Joseph Lee
                Remember that what's legal in CA may not be legal according to ATF.
                Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but once you install that Tapco mag, you're running afoul of 922R and will need to swap several more (9 IIRC) parts to stay compliant unless of course you've already done that.

                On a side note, If you're going to all that trouble, why not convert it to AK mags? The duckbill seems to have issues. Everyone I've seen with them seem to have constant failures. From what I read on the forums, failures with the Tapco mag are considered a feature. Conversely, those who convert to AK mags end up with a rifle as reliable as the AK but that can actually hit targets! Or you could try to find a SKS-M (if it's legal in CA)

                Personally I think you're opening a can of worms. I've opened a few of those myself over the years.
                It's 922 r compliant

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                • #9
                  ianadr
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 10

                  Thank you

                  Originally posted by junior40er
                  yes, as long as its not removable.
                  Thank you, you're the only one who gave me a straight answer

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                  • #10
                    ianadr
                    Junior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 10

                    It's an SKS

                    Originally posted by brianm767
                    SKS that accepts detachable mags is banned by name. Does your SKS say "SKS" on it?
                    And here we goooo.
                    It doesn't have to have "sks" on it to be a sks rifle

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                    • #11
                      ianadr
                      Junior Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 10

                      Nope

                      Originally posted by dwtt
                      What evil features on your SKS would make you need a magazine lock on it?
                      Isn't that like putting a magazine lock on a stock Mini-14?

                      No it's not

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                      • #12
                        brianm767
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 2419

                        Originally posted by ianadr
                        It doesn't have to have "sks" on it to be a sks rifle
                        So then an AR-15 doesn't have to say AR-15 on it to be an AR-15? Per Cali law it does.

                        And honestly I'm not arguing the point, but that's I've always wondered, because a yugo and others may be SKS type rifles but they are not SKS, just as a LAR-15 or Colt 6920 is not an AR-15 per Cali law.

                        I would not use any SKS type rifle with a detachable mag because I don't want to be the test case, but others will because theysay a SKS must say SKS to be a SKS, me, I don'tknow
                        Last edited by brianm767; 03-14-2015, 4:12 PM.

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                        • #13
                          ianadr
                          Junior Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 10

                          Originally posted by brianm767
                          So then an AR-15 doesn't have to say AR-15 on it to be an AR-15? Per Cali law it does.

                          And honestly I'm not arguing the point, but that's I've always wondered, because a yugo and others may be SKS type rifles but they are not SKS, just as a LAR-15 or Colt 6920 is not an AR-15 per Cali law.

                          I would not use any SKS type rifle with a detachable mag because I don't want to be the test case, but others will because theysay a SKS must say SKS to be a SKS, me, I don'tknow
                          It says type 56 in Chinese characters, has a /26\, and looks like a sks; in a court of law, it's going to be an SKS.
                          You may have the time and money to fight it in court but I'd rather just stay out the courtroom, but thank you

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                          • #14
                            ianadr
                            Junior Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 10

                            Originally posted by brianm767
                            So then an AR-15 doesn't have to say AR-15 on it to be an AR-15? Per Cali law it does.

                            And honestly I'm not arguing the point, but that's I've always wondered, because a yugo and others may be SKS type rifles but they are not SKS, just as a LAR-15 or Colt 6920 is not an AR-15 per Cali law.

                            I would not use any SKS type rifle with a detachable mag because I don't want to be the test case, but others will because theysay a SKS must say SKS to be a SKS, me, I don'tknow
                            And SKS with detachable mags are banned in CA by Type, not by Name so any SKS type with a "detachable" magazine is illegal.

                            That's why I was asking about a "bullet button" on an SKS with removable magazines.

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                            • #15
                              Mssr. Eleganté
                              Blue Blaze Irregular
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 10401

                              Originally posted by ianadr
                              And SKS with detachable mags are banned in CA by Type, not by Name so any SKS type with a "detachable" magazine is illegal.
                              How does somebody determine if their firearm is an SKS or not if the firearm doesn't have the letters "SKS" stamped on it somewhere? The court said in Harrott v. Kings County that California had to list banned firearms by manufacturer and model name.
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