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  • Blacky
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 1093

    CCW - upon showing good cause... like what?

    What reasons for consideration for CCW have you seen or heard of that qualify as good cause?
    "You may fire when you are ready Gridley."
  • #2
    bigchelis
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 667

    limited options

    I don't have a CCW, but from reading this site:


    1. Carry a whole lot of money or jewelry in conducting daily business.
    2. Have a restraining order against someone, that has been violated and you can convince the Sherriff that your life is in danger over this.
    3. You carry open while working in security, and want to carry concealled after work hours.

    So, pretty much thats it.
    FYI: No one will share their good cause, it is far too personal or something like that. It is considered unethical to ask someone who has a CCW, what their good cause was.
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    • #3
      Greg-Dawg
      Banned
      • Oct 2006
      • 7793

      Your reasons may be WAY different than mine or someone elses'. I'd consult a lawyer or a CCW instructor regarding your "good cause". Therefore, I doubt someone here would share theirs.

      Personally, my good cause is the 2nd A...but unfortunately it doesn't count here in lovely CA.

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      • #4
        Blacky
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 1093

        I know the general rule of what good cause is but there have to be other common legit reasons. What about if someone is handicapped or disabled and is concerned about their safety?

        on your sig Greg, that video gives me the cold sweats.
        Last edited by Blacky; 09-12-2008, 4:16 PM.
        "You may fire when you are ready Gridley."

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        • #5
          Matt P
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2006
          • 3071

          Have you tried a word search for good cause on Google, your friend?

          Other then that, find out who the CCw Instructors are for your County, and then call them.
          Ask them generally what meets the good cause clause for your County.
          Its my sense that most people would meet it once they understand what good cause is.
          Its much more then just carrying large sums of money.

          As what your County will accept?
          It depends on just that. Some will not issue no matter what another finds as good cause.
          My WTB of Anything Glock 1-2 Generation, Tupperware, Manuals or Parts. Press Me

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          • #6
            Doheny
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Sep 2008
            • 13819

            What county do you live in? The penal code allows each police chief and sheriff to determine what they feel is good cause. What plays in Kern won't play in LA. For instance, regardig disabled, I've heard that the former sheriff of Orange County accepted that for good cause, but the new sheriff will not.

            Again, it all depends where you live.
            Last edited by Doheny; 09-12-2008, 4:36 PM.
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            • #7
              HowardW56
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2003
              • 5901

              Originally posted by kimbercarry
              i have one.i used personal protection.
              In which county?
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              • #8
                Blacky
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 1093

                I live in OC. Ive heard its next to imposable to get one here.
                Last edited by Blacky; 09-12-2008, 4:47 PM.
                "You may fire when you are ready Gridley."

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                • #9
                  xrMike
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 7841

                  Originally posted by bigchelis
                  1. Carry a whole lot of money or jewelry in conducting daily business.
                  2. Have a restraining order against someone, that has been violated and you can convince the Sherriff that your life is in danger over this.
                  In my county, being a judge automatically qualifies you too. I imagine being a district attorney or asst. district attorney would get you some traction also.

                  But that's about it (in my county).

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                  • #10
                    bigchelis
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 667

                    I wonder

                    Originally posted by Blacky
                    I know the general rule of what good cause is but there have to be other common legit reasons. What about if someone is handicapped or disabled and is concerned about their safety?

                    on your sig Greg, that video gives me the cold sweats.
                    If someone is handicaped to the point where they can't compete in the safety drills required by some counties, I can only imagine they would be declined because of their disability to perform the safety drills with live rounds. Then again, like many have said it is up to the discretion of the county sherriff.

                    I have a dream, that one day California will become an issue state.......
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                    • #11
                      Blacky
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 1093

                      Excerpt from Sheriffs dept site

                      In order to qualify for a license to carry a concealed weapon in OC, the applicant must meet the following requirements:

                      a) Be a resident of the County of Orange.

                      b) Be at least 21 years of age.

                      c) Fully complete an application that will include substantial personal information. Much of the information in the application may be subject to public access under the Public Records Act.

                      d) Be free from criminal convictions that would disqualify the applicant from carrying a concealed weapon. Fingerprints will be required and a complete criminal background check will be conducted.

                      e) Be of good moral character.

                      f) Show good cause for the issuance of the license.

                      1. Criteria that may establish good cause include the following:

                      Specific evidence that there has been or is likely to be an attempt on the part of a second party to do great bodily harm to the applicant.

                      The nature of the business or occupation of the applicant is such that it is subject to high personal risk and / or criminal attack, far greater risk than the general population.

                      A task of the business or occupation of the applicant requires frequent transportation of large sums of money or other valuables and alternative protective measures or security cannot be employed.

                      When a business or occupation is of a high-risk nature and requires the applicant's presence in a dangerous environment.

                      The occupation or business of the applicant is such that no means of protection, security or risk avoidance can mitigate the risk other than the carrying of a concealed firearm.

                      Personal protection is warranted to mitigate a threat to the applicant that the applicant is able to substantiate.

                      Note: These examples are not intended to be all-inclusive they are provided merely for your reference. Also, state and local laws do not prohibit an adult from having a concealed weapon in their home or place of business.
                      "You may fire when you are ready Gridley."

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                      • #12
                        Blacky
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 1093

                        Originally posted by bigchelis
                        If someone is handicaped to the point where they can't compete in the safety drills required by some counties, I can only imagine they would be declined because of their disability to perform the safety drills with live rounds.
                        Correct...

                        More requirements.
                        g) Pay all associated application fees. These fees are set by statute and may not be refunded if the application is denied.

                        h) Provide proof of ownership and registration of any weapon to be licensed for concealment.

                        i) Provide at least three letters of character reference.

                        j) Be free from any medical and psychological conditions that might make the applicant unsuitable for carrying a concealed weapon

                        k) Complete required training.
                        "You may fire when you are ready Gridley."

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                        • #13
                          Rivers
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 1630

                          Generally, LE looks for your explanation of why you are more "at risk" or "in danger" of being a victim than the average person. Document as much as you can. NEVER bring up the 2A or how it's your right to carry... That is a sure deal-killer!

                          Suggestion: look at it as if this is a sales prospect you're trying to get to buy your product. Approach it from LE's perspective. Promote your willingness to accept the responsibility while you promise that you will do everything that you can to avoid having to use a gun. LE hates paperwork and "shots fired" mean more paperwork. Have stellar personal references (people of "rank" help) and do a great job of being thorough and well-spoken.

                          Oh the joy of "may issue" states! True BS but that's the role you need to play for now.
                          NRA Certified Instructor: Basic Pistol Shooting

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                          • #14
                            leitung
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 2897

                            Contact CCWInstructor on calccw.. he is awesome..

                            I live in sac county, so unless you are a reserve cop, retired cop, DA, judge, jeweler, banker, or really know how to kiss *** you are not getting one.. period..
                            Former "Subject" of the People's Republic of California in "exile" in Washington State.

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                            • #15
                              yellowfin
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 8371

                              Good causes are secret because...those who have them want the rest of us to remain subjugated? We should be able to say "Aha! Now see I KNOW that good cause worked before, so you can't say it doesn't work now. Gimme my permit. NOW. This isn't a question, this is a you do it statement." Rather than all this secrecy junk, we should have an open list of proven ones.
                              Last edited by yellowfin; 09-12-2008, 8:46 PM.
                              "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws. That's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
                              Originally posted by indiandave
                              In Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.
                              Discretionary Issue is the new Separate but Equal.

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