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  • EOD3
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2003
    • 949

    Another importation thread

    "I don't like repeat offenders, I like DEAD offenders!" ~Ted Nugent

    "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." ~ Claire Wolfe
  • #2
    nobody_special
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 1041

    I've been researching exactly this issue.

    First, I believe the registration fee is $19 per handgun. The one per month rule applies to purchasing from a dealer, not importing or registering firearms that you already own. The 60 day period begins from the time when the guns are brought into CA.

    Second, AFAICT it is illegal to import any handgun not on the "safe list" once you are a resident of California. I have been unable to find any exception that would allow someone to import off-list guns that were left out of state at the time the person moved to CA. I am still looking into this, and hope I'm wrong here...
    Originally posted by Edmund G. Brown
    There are certain rights that are not to be subject to popular votes, otherwise they are not fundamental rights. If every fundamental liberty can be stripped away by a majority vote, then it's not a fundamental liberty.
    Originally posted by jeffyhog
    When the governor vetoes a bill that would make it a felony to steal a gun, but signs a bill into law that makes it a felony not to register a gun you already legally own, you know something isn't right.

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    • #3
      Two Shots
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2007
      • 2022

      "I have a love interest in every one of my films - a gun."
      - Arnold Schwarzenegger

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      • #4
        M. Sage
        Moderator Emeritus
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jul 2006
        • 19759

        60 day deadline starts the day you become a resident.

        If you were moving into CA now, the guns wouldn't have to be on the "safe" list. One handgun/30 days does not apply to personal importation or to private party transfers within the state.
        Originally posted by Deadbolt
        "We're here to take your land for your safety"

        "My Safety?" *click* "There, that was my safety"
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        • #5
          nobody_special
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 1041

          Originally posted by M. Sage
          60 day deadline starts the day you become a resident.
          That is not correct:
          Originally posted by PC 12072(f)
          (2) (A) On or after January 1, 1998, within 60 days of bringing a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person into this state, a personal handgun importer shall do one of the following:
          (i) Forward by prepaid mail or deliver in person to the Department of Justice, a report prescribed by the department including information concerning that individual and a description of the firearm in question.
          (ii) Sell or transfer the firearm in accordance with the provisions of subdivision (d) or in accordance with the provisions of an exemption from subdivision (d).
          (iii) Sell or transfer the firearm to a dealer licensed pursuant to Section 12071.
          (iv) Sell or transfer the firearm to a sheriff or police department.
          However, there is still an issue with importing unlisted handguns after becoming a California resident.
          Originally posted by Edmund G. Brown
          There are certain rights that are not to be subject to popular votes, otherwise they are not fundamental rights. If every fundamental liberty can be stripped away by a majority vote, then it's not a fundamental liberty.
          Originally posted by jeffyhog
          When the governor vetoes a bill that would make it a felony to steal a gun, but signs a bill into law that makes it a felony not to register a gun you already legally own, you know something isn't right.

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          • #6
            CWatson
            Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 286

            Originally posted by nobody_special
            That is not correct:

            However, there is still an issue with importing unlisted handguns after becoming a California resident.
            This has been mentioned before, what if the person is a seasonal Nevada resident? You are a part time resident in Nevada but have never lost or given up residence in California.



            CW

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            • #7
              nobody_special
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 1041

              This has been mentioned before, what if the person is a seasonal Nevada resident? You are a part time resident in Nevada but have never lost or given up residence in California.
              Hm, I had read something which made me believe that this would violate PC 12025; however, upon reviewing the code I don't see any problem. Importing unsafe guns for private use is not illegal:

              12125. (a) Commencing January 1, 2001, any person in this state who
              manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state
              for sale, keeps for sale, offers or exposes for sale, gives, or lends
              any unsafe handgun shall be punished by imprisonment in a county
              jail not exceeding one year.
              This does bring up another question, though: I've seen off-list handguns advertised here in the private sale forum. Isn't that a PC 12025 violation (offering or exposing for sale)?
              Last edited by nobody_special; 09-02-2008, 8:26 PM.
              Originally posted by Edmund G. Brown
              There are certain rights that are not to be subject to popular votes, otherwise they are not fundamental rights. If every fundamental liberty can be stripped away by a majority vote, then it's not a fundamental liberty.
              Originally posted by jeffyhog
              When the governor vetoes a bill that would make it a felony to steal a gun, but signs a bill into law that makes it a felony not to register a gun you already legally own, you know something isn't right.

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