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  • djbooya
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 816

    Registration of Long Guns

    How many of you guys voluntarily register your long guns? The thread about losing the OLL made me think about it. Is there a reason people don't want to register what they have (other then the fee associated with it)?

    I don't currently see the negative in registering all my firearms, but maybe someone can shed the light on why I wouldn't want to do that voluntarily.

    Thanks,
    DJBooya
    "Try Not! Do or Do Not. There is no Try..."
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  • #2
    DB2
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 1542

    I'm not going to make it any easier for the government to know what I own. They could figure it out with some foot work, but why hand it to them.

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    • #3
      Liberty1
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2007
      • 5541

      Originally posted by djbooya
      How many of you guys voluntarily register your long guns? The thread about losing the OLL made me think about it. Is there a reason people don't want to register what they have (other then the fee associated with it)?

      I don't currently see the negative in registering all my firearms, but maybe someone can shed the light on why I wouldn't want to do that voluntarily.

      Thanks,
      Anything I have that is not required to be registered is still not based on the principle that it serves no legitimate purpose and that registration has always been a precursor to confiscation. 5-4 is still too close for me to know that confiscation is forever out the window. And as it is a right IMO it is none of the government's business. If I want to have my serial #s for insurance or crime reporting purposes then there are other ways of safely storing the information until it is needed.

      Now for strategic political reasons, I may be registering an OLL if that becomes the game plan as determined by Calguns HQ.
      False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.
      -- Cesare Beccaria http://www.a-human-right.com/

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      • #4
        Shotgun Man
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 4053

        Wow. If you have to ask, then you probably don't care.

        While you're registering your Remington 870, may I also suggest giving your family's DNA samples to the police along with corneal imprints and bone marrow samples from the entire family including pets.

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        • #5
          djbooya
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 816

          Originally posted by Shotgun Man
          Wow. If you have to ask, then you probably don't care.

          While you're registering your Remington 870, may I also suggest giving your family's DNA samples to the police along with corneal imprints and bone marrow samples from the entire family including pets.
          That's kind of harsh...I was asking because I didn't know the pros/cons. Honestly, if you don't have anything productive to add to my thread, don't post.

          Everyone here talks about being legal and doing everything on the up and up. Why would I assume voluntary registration is a BAD thing? Honestly, if I voluntarily registered my freaking Mak-90 back in the day I'd still have it..., but I wasn't on calguns back then and I didn't even know about the AW ban at the time... Had I registered the damn thing then there probably would have been a slight chance that I would have received some notification about the ban... Don't know if that's true or not, bu I know if I registered it when I was supposed to I'd still be able to use it .
          DJBooya
          "Try Not! Do or Do Not. There is no Try..."
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          • #6
            Shotgun Man
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 4053

            Originally posted by djbooya
            That's kind of harsh...I was asking because I didn't know the pros/cons. Honestly, if you don't have anything productive to add to my thread, don't post.

            Everyone here talks about being legal and doing everything on the up and up. Why would I assume voluntary registration is a BAD thing? Honestly, if I voluntarily registered my freaking Mak-90 back in the day I'd still have it..., but I wasn't on calguns back then and I didn't even know about the AW ban at the time... Had I registered the damn thing then there probably would have been a slight chance that I would have received some notification about the ban... Don't know if that's true or not, bu I know if I registered it when I was supposed to I'd still be able to use it .
            I'm sorry. I did not mean to be harsh, but I do think the infirmity of the idea of registration where registration is not compelled would be self-evident (especially for most long guns, OLLs aside).

            I was trying to be productive.
            Last edited by Shotgun Man; 08-27-2008, 10:36 PM.

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            • #7
              djbooya
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2008
              • 816

              Originally posted by Shotgun Man
              I'm sorry. I did not mean to be harsh, but I do think the infirmity of the idea of registration where registration is not compelled would be self-evident (especially for most long guns, OLLs aside).

              I was trying to be productive.
              Thanks for the clarification, the dangers of "reading" into things on the internet. No harm no foul and my response was not intended to be "bad" in any way either.
              DJBooya
              "Try Not! Do or Do Not. There is no Try..."
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              • #8
                tombinghamthegreat
                Veteran Member
                • May 2007
                • 2785

                One IIRC you cannot register long guns, correct me if i am wrong. Two the second amendment is more designed to defend against the government itself, registration is going against what the founding fathers stood for and risk being disarmed. If the government is able to disarm our society we the people lose control resulting in our rights and would be forced to any law passed without being able to contest it.
                "Legitimate use of violence can only be that which is required in self-defense." Ron Paul
                "The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite." - Thomas Jefferson
                Originally posted by forumguy
                The same way they enforce all the rest of the BS laws. Only criminals are exempt, while the honest obey.
                Originally posted by bwiese
                Sometimes I think the function of Calguns is half to refute bad info from gunshops and half to refute bad info from DOJ.

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                • #9
                  djbooya
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 816

                  Originally posted by tombinghamthegreat
                  One IIRC you cannot register long guns, correct me if i am wrong. Two the second amendment is more designed to defend against the government itself, registration is going against what the founding fathers stood for and risk being disarmed. If the government is able to disarm our society we the people lose control resulting in our rights and would be forced to any law passed without being able to contest it.
                  There's actually a form offered that you can use to voluntarily register your long guns. Only hand guns are required.
                  DJBooya
                  "Try Not! Do or Do Not. There is no Try..."
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                  • #10
                    God Bless The Mauser
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 1291

                    Register my guns? NEVER!

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