Benefits to Volentary Registration of Long Arms

[leitung]

So, would any of you register you long guns with the DOJ? Is there any benefit to doing so. I don't wanna put on the tin foil hat here, but I don't think I want the DOJ knowing what guns I have if I don't have to register them. But if they get stolen, I want them to be attached to my name, so I could hopefully get them back.

What say you, should I do it or not?

[bwiese]

Helpful for lost/stolen recovery.

There may be a particular happy technical benefit to voluntary registration of some rifles with DOJ.
It's being further analyzed and will be posted here on CGN when we know a bit more. ...

[bohoki]

i would register my rifles is i was allowed to attach a silencer

or assault features since i did register some long arms back near 2000

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[sorensen440]

just have your name engraved

[yellowfin]

I for one do not wish to encourage them to seek any form of consolations from me whatsoever. The closer they can get to non-existance as far as I'm concerned the better.

[C.G.]

First step - registration.
Second plausible step - confiscation; if they are not registered it makes it a lot more difficult.

[elSquid]

Helpful for lost/stolen recovery.

There may be a particular happy technical benefit to voluntary registration of some rifles with DOJ.
It's being further analyzed and will be posted here on CGN when we know a bit more. ...

So if an officer gives you grief over your OLL and refuses to read the flowchart, you can say to him "Look, it's registered. Call it in and check."

-- Michael

[Bruce]

Benefits to Volentary Registration of Long Arms ?

It would make it easier for them to write the search warrants when they decide on total disarmament. Is that the kind of benefit you had in mind?

[elSquid]

So if an officer gives you grief over your OLL and refuses to read the flowchart, you can say to him "Look, it's registered. Call it in and check."

Now that I think about it, that would be a nice security blanket for Saiga owners.

-- Michael

[yellowfin]

Now that I think about it, that would be a nice security blanket for Saiga owners.

-- Michael

And just as much of an illusion of security. They'll just have another thing they can ignore just like they ignore the 2nd and 14th Amendments, individual property rights, etc.

[nobs11]

How would I register an OLL? i.e. just an unbuilt lower, not a complete rifle? On the form it says barrel length, etc. Thanks.

[Meplat]

Recovering lost or stolen guns through registration is a pipe dream. No agency I know of puts any priority on it at all. Every gun I have ever DROSed still comes back as belonging to me even though I have filed the requisite reports of stolen firearms. If one is ever used in a crime they are going to come looking for me so I have to be careful not to lose the original police report of stolen guns. I see absolutely no advantage to registration.

Helpful for lost/stolen recovery.

There may be a particular technical benefit to voluntary registration of some rifles with DOJ. It's being further analyzed and will be posted here on CGN when we know a bit more. ...

[elSquid]

And just as much of an illusion of security. They'll just have another thing they can ignore just like they ignore the 2nd and 14th Amendments, individual property rights, etc.

Registration of OLLs doesn't help in the "confiscation" scenario.

It may help when interacting with local LEOs/DAs who aren't up to speed on the law.

Instead of trying to educate a LEO by showing the flowchart, discussing the implications of Harrott, SB23, etc the first point a person could bring up is that the firearm in question is legally registered. And that the officer can easily check on this. Obviously the DOJ would not allow one to (illegally?) register a real, named AW via this mechanism, so it stands to reason that the rifle - from a maker and model standpoint - is legal.

If the officer presses the point, one could then show how the firearm complies with SB23.

I don't know what kind of receipt that the DOJ sends upon successful registration, but I assume that this too could be part of the paperwork that one could present to a dubious LEO.

Of course, this wouldn't be necessary if the DOJ actually did their job and updated the so-called "assault weapons identification guide". But that's a different rant.

-- Michael

[yellowfin]

Again, you're assuming they'll play by the rules. They don't. They decide which ones they like and don't like...otherwise lots of us, myself included, would UOC right now for instance. You can be right but if certain people don't like it, they can be as wrong as they like but you lose unless you sue your way through it. Basically you have no rights until at least a cop car ride and at worst $10k+ later.

A signed piece of paper means nothing to those who make up the rules as they go along. And until we retake the state, they do.

[bwiese]

Yellowfin, please stop the drama.

This may have practical realworld effects for OLL folks.